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Article #4454Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix
From: Tim Dodd
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 15:26
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 15:26
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In article <BxB855.7Mq@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU| sschaff@roc.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Stephen F. Schaffner) writes: |In article <73878@hydra.gatech.EDU|, cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes: |[on whether religious talk can be considered meaningful] | ||| In order to judge whether a particular concept is meaningful, it is not enough ||| to ask if the concept exists. Even asking the question makes it clear that ||| it does. One must ask if the concept has any real referents. If it ||| cannot be shown that such referents exist, then the concept is meaningless ||| as it does not refer to anything. | |It's not clear to me exactly what you mean by reality. Religious believers in |general think that God is part of reality, just that he is not demostrable by |scientific means. Is reality to be identified with physical reality? In an |earlier post (which apparantly no longer exists -- is this an ironic gesture |on the part of Usenet?) you seemed to suggest that for a word or concept to be |meaningful, it had not only to refer to an element of reality, but had to refer |to an element that could (at least in principle) be detected. Is this in fact |your position? Yes. If God were part of reality, then his existence would be demonstrable. However, God is *defined* as being non-demonstrable. |It seems pretty clear to me that the concept of meaning that you espouse is |itself meaningless under your own definition (meaning does not, after all, |refer to anything observable), and is in fact a philosophical rather than |a scientific statement. Au contraire: I defined "meaning" in an earlier post. It most certainly refers to something real. Tim -- Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech: cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!prism!cegtitd From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix Message-ID: <74170@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 9 Nov 92 15:26:04 GMT References: <1992Nov5.221645.26360@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU+ <73878@hydra.gatech.EDU| <BxB855.7Mq@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU| Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 33