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Re: Psychic showdown - challenge to Herc

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From: Peter Bowditch
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 07:34
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"|-|ercules" <radgray123@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote 
>> "|-|ercules" <radgray123@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>"A Real Psychic" <arealpsychic@crystalball.com> wrote 
>>>> I bet I can out-psychic Herc, so here's the challenge...
>>>> 
>>>> I'll answer any question off the top of my psychic head and Herc does 
>>>> whatever it is he does to answer the same question and we post the replies 
>>>> here.
>>>> 
>>>> Whichever one answers the question correctly gets a point, whilst a wrong 
>>>> answer loses a point.
>>>> 
>>>> The original poster replies with the correct answer after both "psychically" 
>>>> read answers have been given.
>>>> 
>>>> I nominate Sylvia to keep score and no MD5 nonsense or any other bullshit 
>>>> just plain answers to questions.
>>>> 
>>>> Accept the challenge Herc?
>>>
>>>
>>>No.  My answers are channeled through random quotes and often metaphorical.
>> 
>> Oh, so they are not answers at all. Thanks for clearing that up.
>
>
>How did you conclude that?

By reading where you said "My answers are channeled through random
quotes and often metaphorical".

>
>I can channel answers to genuine (not purely test) questions.

Prove it.

>
>You won't even do a subjective demo to see what I can do,
>then flounder around an objective test protocol because you
>have the idea set in your head that I'm not paranormal and
>you'll just debunk me with an argument.

I have the idea you're not paranormal because you have never offered
any evidence of paranormality.


>>>Any idiot can impress a crowd of dullard skeptics with a direct although stupid answer
>>>that directly addresses the question.
>> 
>> But you are not just any idiot.
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>Find a book with 500 pages and 50 lines per page.
>>>
>>>
>>>People ask us questions that are not just for test purposes, interesting questions.
>>>
>>>They give a page and line number - we both upload a screen shot of that page
>>>and my answer will piss all over your random quote.
>> 
>> But he isn't offering to provide random quotes - he is offering to
>> answer questions.
>
>
>Yes Peter, it's called a conversation.

Not if it's a test of paranormal powers it isn't.

>
>This is a conversation, Mindreading.com is a test, Australian Skeptics challenge
>is just a cherry picking exercise and therefore has no valid conclusions.
>
>How can a 'fake' magician duplicate or better my test protocol?

Did I say anything about a fake magician. I said that I have seen some
good mind reading acts in my day. None of them claim to be paranormal.

>
>I'll tell you what.
>
>If MindReading.com starts to get some real paranormal results come in,
>THEN you can try and duplicate the feat
>AND/OR see if I can guess YOUR (volunteers) ideas.
>
>
>
>
>
>> 
>>>
>>>PS this is valid paranormal test but skeptics are too stupid to use a brain
>>>to distinguish intelligence from noise.
>>>
>
>You should try it Peter.
>
>Just get a few judges to blindly score which answer is better.

OK. Here are six questions, with randomly-selected quotes for answers.
The "answers" were provided by me and my friends Darryl and Cody.

Q1. What is the capital city of Canada?

A1 - The Turtles sang "Happy Together"
A2 - The cactus lies to the East
A3 - It's Yom Kippur on Tuesday

Best answer - none of them

Q2. Is there life on the new planet discovered this week?

A1 - Whatever it is
A2 - Yo momma wears combat boots
A3 - Pythagoras was Greek

Best answer - none of them

Q3. If I am the eggman, who is the walrus?

A1 - The stars come out at night
A2 - I got a plastic fox in my Happy Meal
A3 - Cabbage is a cruciferous vegetable

Best answer - none of them

Q4. How many beans make five?

A1 - Fourteen days in a fortnight
A2 - Insulin is made in the pancreas
A3 - White smoke indicates that a new Pope has been chosen

Best answer - none of them

Q5. What is the third track on the fourth CD down in the rack in my
lounge room?

A1 - He wore a paisley tie and a diamond earring
A2 - Concrete is very strong in compression
A3 - Larks' tongues in honey

Best answer - none of them

Q6. Is Goulburn in the Goulburn Valley?

A1 - When the telephone rings the dog barks
A2 - I have lost my iPhone cable
A3 - And the caramel sauce dripped from her chin

Best answer - none of them

>
>You've spent 9 years whining about subjectiveness of answers that can't be marked right or wrong.

If they can't be marked right or wrong then they demonstrate nothing.

>
>Forget ANSWERS - just mark which answer is BEST.

The best answer is the correct one.

>
>You could at least organize a simple buy subjective demo comparing my random quote answers
>to someone Else's random quote answers.

How do your random quote answers compare to mine, Darryl's and Cody's
for the six questions above?

>
>This is science, you're playing a lawyer in a paranormal competition and refusing
>to investigate my power.
>
>
>Herc
>
> 

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