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"|-|ercules" <radgray123@yahoo.com> wrote:

>STEP 1
>[HERC] Subject thinks of a yes/no question of genuine (not purely test) interest.
>[ZENNER] Tester picks one of the Zenner cards, STAR, CIRCLE, WAVY LINES, SQUARE, FISH
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>STEP 2
>[HERC] Tell me a random page and line number and I'll look up the "answer".
>[ZENNER] Look at the card and concentrate on the symbol.
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>STEP 3
>[HERC] Tell me 3 yes/no questions, A B C, one of them is the original question 
>              but you don't tell me which one it is.
>[ZENNER] Give me a full shuffled Zenner deck including the card you were holding.
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>STEP 4
>[HERC]  I tell you A, B or C.
>[ZENNER]  I tell you STAR, CIRCLE, WAVY LINES, SQUARE or FISH.
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>STEP 5
>[HERC] You mark whether I told you what your original question was, RIGHT or WRONG.
>[ZENNER] You mark whether I told you what your original Zenner card was, RIGHT or WRONG.
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>STEP 6
>[HERC] RIGHT - I broke 3:1 odds on that single trial
>[ZENNER] RIGHT - I broke 5:1 odds on that single trial
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>Any reason Peter Bowditch (Aus Skeptics) accepts the Zenner test but says lots of Magicians
>could cheat in my test?

I have never said that any magicians could cheat in your test. I said
that I have seen some impressive mind reading acts.

Now that's out of the way, the two sets of tests above are not
comparable, and the failure of your "protocol" starts at step 1, where
you set out to give an answer to a non-question.

Put another way, the results of the Zenner card test can be verified,
the results of your "test" depend on whether you think you have
succeeded or not.

<aus.tv removed, of course>

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>Herc

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