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Article #5952Re: "Near Proof for Near-Death?"
From: John H.
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:11
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:11
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A neuro psychiatrist in Britain has come up with a clever idea. He wants to place certain unique objects in emergency rooms that can only be seen from the ceiling or thereabouts. So if people report 'seeing their body' they will be quizzed as to whether or not they saw these certain objects. Stay tuned, don't be too cynical, but don't hold your breath either, unless you want to end up in an emergency room .... . John H "Kevin D. Quitt" <Kevin@Quitt.net> wrote in message news:62C994DA3C29CD92.4F294D6DFAEA6CF2.731CDBC0118B6411@lp.airnews.net... > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:43:59 GMT, igoddard@erols.mom (Ian Goddard) wrote: > >"NO MEDICAL EXPLANATION" FOR NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES > > >Medical explanations cannot account for near death experiences (NDEs), > >according to the results of the biggest prospective study to date of > >patients who were resuscitated after clinical death. > > ... > > >But the team found no link between NDEs and drugs used to treat the > >patients, the duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, or the > >patients' reports of the degree to which they feared death before the > >incident. > > So that is the complete list of medical explanations? Somehow I think not. I > also rather expect the research team didn't say "NO MEDICAL EXPLANATION". > > > >And most showed significant > >psychological changes, the team reports. The 23 NDE patients who were > >still alive eight years later "had become more emotionally vulnerable > >and empathic", they write. > > Sounds a lot like hypoxia. > > > >Van Lommel's team report anecdotal stories of patients recalling > >events that happened around them during out of body experiences while > >they were clinically dead. These experiences "push at the limit of > >medical ideas about the range of human consciousness and the > >mind/brain relationship," Van Lommel says. > > This presumes the experiences weren't merely fantasies. Without an accurate > recording of what *was* going on at the time, it's impossible to relate such > stories to reality. > > -- > #include <standard.disclaimer> > _ > Kevin D Quitt USA 91351-4454 96.37% of all statistics are made up > Per the FCA, this email address may not be added to any commercial list
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