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Article #5951Re: "Near Proof for Near-Death?"
From: Kevin D. Quitt
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:44
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:44
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:43:59 GMT, igoddard@erols.mom (Ian Goddard) wrote: >"NO MEDICAL EXPLANATION" FOR NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES >Medical explanations cannot account for near death experiences (NDEs), >according to the results of the biggest prospective study to date of >patients who were resuscitated after clinical death. ... >But the team found no link between NDEs and drugs used to treat the >patients, the duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, or the >patients' reports of the degree to which they feared death before the >incident. So that is the complete list of medical explanations? Somehow I think not. I also rather expect the research team didn't say "NO MEDICAL EXPLANATION". >And most showed significant >psychological changes, the team reports. The 23 NDE patients who were >still alive eight years later "had become more emotionally vulnerable >and empathic", they write. Sounds a lot like hypoxia. >Van Lommel's team report anecdotal stories of patients recalling >events that happened around them during out of body experiences while >they were clinically dead. These experiences "push at the limit of >medical ideas about the range of human consciousness and the >mind/brain relationship," Van Lommel says. This presumes the experiences weren't merely fantasies. Without an accurate recording of what *was* going on at the time, it's impossible to relate such stories to reality. -- #include <standard.disclaimer> _ Kevin D Quitt USA 91351-4454 96.37% of all statistics are made up Per the FCA, this email address may not be added to any commercial list
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,d7d60c28eab87be X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: f88c3,d7d60c28eab87be X-Google-Attributes: gidf88c3,public X-Google-Thread: f44bc,d7d60c28eab87be X-Google-Attributes: gidf44bc,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-17 13:44:52 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!news.airnews.net!cabal10.airnews.net!cabal1.airnews.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: Kevin D. Quitt <Kevin@Quitt.net> Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.consciousness.mysticism,bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: "Near Proof for Near-Death?" Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:44:43 -0800 Organization: If was organized, would I be reading Net News? Lines: 41 Message-ID: <62C994DA3C29CD92.4F294D6DFAEA6CF2.731CDBC0118B6411@lp.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <1hps1uoso8rp09aoq256l516q4ecjvio5u@4ax.com> References: <3c1e54cd.44797375@news.erols.com> Reply-To: Kevin@Quitt.net Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library2.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Mon Dec 17 15:43:33 2001 NNTP-Posting-Host: !Wkh:1k-W<!*u$BFV&#$C2"II (Encoded at Airnews!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548