🚀 go-pugleaf

So much for not participating in this discussion anymore.  I guess you 
guys will never take me at my word now...

>Whose people do not necessarily enjoy the same lavish (comparatively) 
>lifestyle as you and I. Would you like to go to some Third World country
>and perform the recycling you love so much by searching for food in garbage
>dump? ;-)

No, the poorest don't.  Even in many comparitivey wealthy European 
countires though, the amount of everything consumed is far less than 
North America.  I'm not ruling out the possiblilty that I would have to 
significantly reduce my standard of living (which, for me personally, is 
not as high as some now anyway).

>>Ah, the post-modern critique. Good. But it offers no viable alternatives.
>>Interesting the hostility that you are now introducing. There is nothing
>>"gutless" about exploring the unknown. Indeed, aside from soldiers actions
>>in battle, there may be no higher degree of courage

You're cool.  The post-modern critique my foot.  All I know about post 
modernism deals with columns, post and lintel construction and the fancy 
uses of pastel colours in gaudy ways on public buildings.  In terms of a 
sort of philisophical post-modernism, I'm ignorant.  If you wish to beat 
me over the head with it, I'm feeling submissive today.  (beat me man, 
beat me!)

>Courage??? Sacrificing your life so that your taxes would go to the 
>government of your present country as opposed to some other government??? ;-)
>(For that's what most wars are about)

I wonder about the courage argument in space exploration.  Sure it's 
dangerous, but people don't do it because they're courageous.  They do it 
for the glory, because it looks great on a resume, because they want to 
be on tv, or because they have some belief that their little space 
journey is going to revolutionize human existence.  Nobody does anything 
simply because the're courageous.  I would do virtually anything, if I 
felt a desire to, and felt it was worthwhile.  I guess that makes me as 
courageous as the next guy.

>>And you never offered a response as to exactly why you thought my critique
>>of your suggestions was incorrect. But, I would recommend that, should you
>>wish to pursue useful dialogue as opposed to a simple flame-war, that you
>>tone down a tad on the language and belligerance.

You're sure that my beligerance is preventing a good dialogue are you?  
Perhaps your hauty and patronizing tone might have some effect on that 
too.  Just a thought.

>Yes, Stu, it would help if you didn't take every message criticizing your
>viewpoint as a threat to your mastery of this group :-)

Hey, I'm done with this "leader of the pack" crap.  It was a funny joke 
when it started, but now everybody keep sbringing it up, as if I actually 
want to dictate the way things go around here.  Leaders take more 
criticism, have you noticed?  Well, I'm done with it already.  Go ahead 
and talk about your lustings for space exploration.  I might comment now 
and then, but in no way do I want you folks to think I'm trying to tell 
you what to post.  Go nuts, be free.  I mostly get beligerent when I 
think people aren't taking me seriously.  Kind of like when I run into 
somebody delivering campaign flyers, and when they find out they're from 
the NDP, they get that funny "haha, silly idealistic university student" 
or "wouldn't all hell break loose if THEY actually won" looks on their 
faces.  It's not a very pleasant or ammusing experience.  Yes I'm 
defensive, yes I'm paranoid.  I guess I'll have to get therapy now...
-- 
Stu, King of CSCSS
umcroall@cc.umanitoba.ca

"Sara dear, our carriage awaits!"