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Re: Salaries, benefits, contractors and civil servants (was Re: NASA)

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From: Cathy Mancus
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:00
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In article <47vqft$3gj@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov>, manning@pat.mdc.com (Tom Manning) writes:
> In article <47svev$1s4@brtph500.bnr.ca>, mancus@bnr.ca (Cathy Mancus) writes:
>>> The consequences of this major NASA downsizing will be
>>> with us for a full generation, because it will be extremely hard for
>>> NASA to recruit the best and the brightest while this memory of
>>> disloyalty is bright and alive.
 
> I recently saw a chart showing the SAT scores of incoming Engineering 
> freshman at my Alma Mater. The chart had the different Engineering
> disciplines broken down. They were trying to brag on how high the
> The one thing that stood out to me was that Aerospace Engineers had by
> far the lowest average scores. I see this coming.

  I knew that would happen, though not so soon.  It makes one wonder
just who is going to build SSTO and the next generation of vehicles.
Bright young minds nearly always want to go into growth industries,
where advancement, interesting projects, and security are easier to acheive.
 
> Another thing I noticed from observation of JSC. If you work hard
> and do a good job you start to get all the work.

  Tom is *very* right about this, and he should know because he
is one of the people doing three jobs at once, or at least was when
I was there...
 
> All in all I find NASA management to be pretty good. That is for a bunch
> of engineers who are now trying to manage. The good thing is that they tend
> to not promote bad people into management slots( not axiomatic however ).

  For the record, the engineers who are forced to do management at NASA
do their best.  They tend to be forced into management roles of some sort,
and it can require fancy footwork to avoid it or minimize it.

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From: mancus@bnr.ca (Cathy Mancus)
Subject: Re: Salaries, benefits, contractors and civil servants (was Re: NASA)
Date: 1995/11/10
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