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Article #7317Re: man-rating
From: Dillon Pyron
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:24
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:24
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In article <C0G2w2.FJI@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <1993Jan06.165148.9581@eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu writes: >>>There is no need to man rate. It adds cost but doesn't affect >>>safety. If it where your money would buy the $70 million 98% safe >>>Atlas or the $90 million 98% safe Atlas? >> >>YOU say there's no need to man-rate. The astronaut community and anyone who >>goes up on it IS going to disagree with you. > >Depends on *who* goes up on it; sensible people will look at the reliability >figures and conclude that man-rating decreases the chances of a successful >flight (because it runs up the cost without increasing reliability). > >The astronaut community is less conservative, overall, than their official >public image would have you think. You'd have plenty of volunteers from >there if the engineering looked sensible and the purposes looked worthwhile, >even disregarding the number of qualified volunteers from elsewhere. These are guys (mostly guys) have a professional career of flying aircraft on/beyond the edges. I worked at Edwards for a short while, and one AF construction types repeated the morbid joke that they are always building new roads there. Why should "astronauts" suddenly develop a need for perceived safety? BTW, the STS is the safest transportation system we have, based on fatalities per passenger mile. But who would pay $1 billion apiece for a 747? (Please attach a smiley to the safety record). > >However, Doug's point is nevertheless valid, because the original context >was official government projects... and it is official NASA dogma that >man-rating is mandatory for such purposes. And we all know that a dog ma is a bitch :-) -- Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated. (214)462-3556 (when I'm here) | (214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |"Pacts with the devil are not legally pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |binding!" PADI DM-54909 |-Friar Tuck _Robin Hood:The Hooded Man_
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Newsgroups: sci.space Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!mksol!usenet From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron) Subject: Re: man-rating Message-ID: <1993Jan7.152456.25477@mksol.dseg.ti.com> Lines: 41 Sender: usenet@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Usenet News) Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support References: <1993Jan4.154842.13841@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1993Jan4.180947.20495@iti.org> <72958@cup.portal.com> <1993Jan6.025846.15440@iti.org> <1993Jan06.165148.9581@eng.umd.edu> <C0G2w2.FJI@zoo.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:24:56 GMT