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Article #44Re: help, a simple problem
From: Harald Giese
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:00
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Jon Dodd wrote: > ... > From a normal distribution with mean m and standard deviation sd, I > pick a random sample A and then second B. If A>B then the value of A is > assigned to group X, if B>A then value of A is assigned to group Y. What > is the resulting mean and standard deviation of the two distributions X > and Y? I am not mathamatically oriented so a step by step proof would be > great. > ... Hi Jon, For a normal distribution A and B are independent random variables. Therefore, the likelihood for P(A>B) = 0.5 (i.e. 50%) and P(B>A) = 1 - 0.5 = 0.5 (P(u) + P(v) = 1, if v is the complementary event of u - think of a coin: P(head) + P(tail) = 1). You are just dividing a set of N random numbers into two sets of N/2 elements by random! (However, if you had specified something like A > m + sd this would make a different case.) Of course both sets are random representations of the same distribution with the same mean and standard deviation - but slightly different sample means and sample standard deviations as those are only estimators of the "true" parameters of the distribution. For N -> Infinity: mean(x) = mean(y) = mean_of_normal_distribution. I think, you should read one or two basic books on statistics, there are even some focussing on medical/biological issues. Regards, Harald (BTW, I had the same thought as Ben.) -- Harald Giese Email: giese@dkrz.de Phone: +49 (0)40 4123 5796; Fax: +49 (0)40 5605724 Institut fuer Meereskunde der Universitaet Hamburg (Institute of Oceanography of the University of Hamburg) Troplowitzstrasse 7, D-22529 Hamburg
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