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Started by Dominic-Luc Webb
Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:05
Drug binding: When fluorescence polarization fails
Author: Dominic-Luc Webb
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:05
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:05
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I have worked for some time with fluroescence polarization (FP) in studies of drug-protein binding. My drug, which is hydrophobic, typically has a fluorescent adduct and the solution has 0.01% Tween 20 to keep down non-specific binding to test tubes, multiwell plates, etc. Assay usually works well. I usually do a check with a series of glycerol concentrations to ensure that FP is working OK. I expect at high glycerol concentration, the higher viscosity lowers molecular rotation which is detected as an increase in the amount of polarized light in the static (parallel) channel. This usually works fine, fluorescein for instance. I recently have found some labelled drugs that show no increase in polarization, and even a small decrease (about 20 mP) even when adding glycerol to 50%. Again, Tween 20 is 0.01% throughout. Fluorescence intensity remains relatively constant with only a slight parallel increase in both channels. The underlying physics of FP always seemed pretty straightforward, but now I am confronted with such data that has been reproduced several times and it is not clear how this came about. Strangely, when a protein that is known to be a drug target is present, there is a strong increase in polarization (100-300 mP). The glycerol data has created an uncertainty about negative data for test proteins that I am screening for drug binding. Is there anyone in here that might have some hints how this lack of change in polarization in glycerol might have come about, maybe some suggestions how to troubleshoot this? Dominic
Re: Drug binding: When fluorescence polarization fails
Author: Marvin
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:17
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:17
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Dominic-Luc Webb wrote: > I have worked for some time with fluroescence polarization (FP) > in studies of drug-protein binding. My drug, which is > hydrophobic, typically has a fluorescent adduct and the > solution has 0.01% Tween 20 to keep down non-specific binding > to test tubes, multiwell plates, etc. Assay usually works well. > > I usually do a check with a series of glycerol concentrations > to ensure that FP is working OK. I expect at high glycerol > concentration, the higher viscosity lowers molecular rotation > which is detected as an increase in the amount of polarized > light in the static (parallel) channel. This usually works > fine, fluorescein for instance. I recently have found some > labelled drugs that show no increase in polarization, and > even a small decrease (about 20 mP) even when adding glycerol > to 50%. Again, Tween 20 is 0.01% throughout. Fluorescence > intensity remains relatively constant with only a slight > parallel increase in both channels. The underlying physics of > FP always seemed pretty straightforward, but now I am > confronted with such data that has been reproduced several > times and it is not clear how this came about. > > Strangely, when a protein that is known to be a drug target is > present, there is a strong increase in polarization (100-300 mP). That is what I'd expect. Binding to a large molecule (i.e., the protein) reduces the rotation rate of the labeled drug, thus increasing the polarization. > The glycerol data has created an uncertainty about negative > data for test proteins that I am screening for drug binding. > > Is there anyone in here that might have some hints how this > lack of change in polarization in glycerol might have come > about, maybe some suggestions how to troubleshoot this? It could be that the change of solvent to 50% glycerol reduces the fluorescence lifetime, thus increasing the measured polarization. > > Dominic >
Re: Drug binding: When fluorescence polarization fails
Author: Dominic-Luc Webb
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:11
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:11
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Thanks Marvin for your response, and sorry about any confusion I might have created in the use of the word "strangely". The "strangeness" had only to do with the disjunct between the unexpected glycerol data and the expected protein binding data using the same labelled drug. Until now, I regarded both of these as positive control tests. Regarding 50% glycerol, I could be convinced that the fluorescence lifetime was changed, but I would need to bring this in line with recent experiments. I went back and made some further measurements and quantifications together with data I collected earlier. I calculate a 1.4 fold increase in fluorescence intensity (FI) when measured with normal FI filter set. Using the FP filters to measure same samples, there was also an increase in fluorescence intensity in both of the two channels (1.35 in the static channel, 1.41 in the perpendicular channel). Fluorescence yield must have increased concommitantly with a differential shift towards the perpendicular channel. Considering that last sentence, this assay has thus far not been very sensitive to different intensities (e.g., fluorescein over a few orders of magnitude). However, the differential shift towards the perpendicular channel (1.41/1.35), although small, approaches significance and seems in line with your suggestion that fluorescence lifetime was decreased. Does this make sense? Dominic > > Strangely, when a protein that is known to be a drug target is > > present, there is a strong increase in polarization (100-300 mP). > > That is what I'd expect. Binding to a large molecule (i.e., > the protein) reduces the rotation rate of the labeled drug, > thus increasing the polarization. > > > The glycerol data has created an uncertainty about negative > > data for test proteins that I am screening for drug binding. > > > > Is there anyone in here that might have some hints how this > > lack of change in polarization in glycerol might have come > > about, maybe some suggestions how to troubleshoot this? > > It could be that the change of solvent to 50% glycerol > reduces the fluorescence lifetime, thus increasing the > measured polarization. > > > > > Dominic > > >
Re: Drug binding: When fluorescence polarization fails
Author: Marvin
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:50
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:50
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Dominic-Luc Webb wrote: > Thanks Marvin for your response, and sorry about any confusion I > might have created in the use of the word "strangely". The > "strangeness" had only to do with the disjunct between the > unexpected glycerol data and the expected protein binding data > using the same labelled drug. Until now, I regarded both of > these as positive control tests. > > Regarding 50% glycerol, I could be convinced that the fluorescence > lifetime was changed, but I would need to bring this in line with > recent experiments. I went back and made some further measurements > and quantifications together with data I collected earlier. I > calculate a 1.4 fold increase in fluorescence intensity (FI) when > measured with normal FI filter set. Using the FP filters to measure > same samples, there was also an increase in fluorescence intensity in > both of the two channels (1.35 in the static channel, 1.41 in the > perpendicular channel). Fluorescence yield must have increased > concommitantly with a differential shift towards the perpendicular > channel. > > Considering that last sentence, this assay has thus far not been > very sensitive to different intensities (e.g., fluorescein over a > few orders of magnitude). However, the differential shift towards > the perpendicular channel (1.41/1.35), although small, approaches > significance and seems in line with your suggestion that fluorescence > lifetime was decreased. Does this make sense? > > Dominic When you change the environment around a molecule, energy levels change. Try scanning the absorption and emission spectra, which should be different in 50 glycerol vs. water. It isn't easy to generalize about specific changes in optical properties.
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