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Article #24Re: ESPOIR 2.00 release
From: Cristal
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 00:00
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Lachlan Cranswick wrote : > Given ESPOIR uses extracted intensities - has it been > tested/how good is it on single crystal HKL data > (0% overlap) in suggesting a starting model? > Am mainly thinking in terms of datasets with poor intensity, > ambigious spacegroup, etc - but it should work by default > on good quality data(?). > > Surely if ESPOIR/Monte Carlo methods can do a good job with > intensities extracted from powder data, it should be able to do > at least as well on single crystal data(?) In general, who can do the hard work, can do the simple. Single crystal data-like were tested. Yes, ESPOIR is able to determine structures from single crystal data. But the upper complexity limit is ridiculously low if compared with direct methods. In the "from scratch" option (i.e. starting from completely random models), the maximum number of independent atoms is 15-30 : really small ! The maximum complexity for using ESPOIR in the MR (Molecular Replacement) mode (locating a known fragment) is not well known, but degrees of freedom (DoF) may be of the order 50-100 (however, the ESPOIR 2.00 version can locate only one fragment, corresponding to 6 DoF). Further developments will concern the consideration of torsion angles and rotating/translating several fragments together. Reasons for not being able to determine a structure from single crystal data may be quite numerous. If the crystal is twinned by merohedry, ESPOIR will be very helpful, for instance, since an option for working from a powder pattern regenerated from the |Fs| is included. This option will restitute a non-twinned set of powder data, though loosing some information in strict orverlapping peaks. Best Armel Le Bail - Universit� du Maine, Laboratoire des Fluorures, CNRS ESA 6010, Av. O. Messiaen, 72085 Le Mans Cedex 9, France http://www.cristal.org/
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: f4552,771a4ac8e1f8061f X-Google-Attributes: gidf4552,public X-Google-Thread: fcf0b,771a4ac8e1f8061f X-Google-Attributes: gidfcf0b,public X-Google-Thread: f804b,771a4ac8e1f8061f X-Google-Attributes: gidf804b,public X-Google-Thread: fa6b6,771a4ac8e1f8061f X-Google-Attributes: gidfa6b6,public From: Cristal <cristal@cybercable.tm.fr> Subject: Re: ESPOIR 2.00 release Date: 1999/06/09 Message-ID: <375E9DA0.2B3043F3@cybercable.tm.fr> X-Deja-AN: 487562251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <375E8782.637070E1@aviion.univ-lemans.fr> <l.cranswick.305.0BAEC578@dl.ac.uk> X-Accept-Language: fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@oceanite.cybercable.fr X-Trace: oceanite.cybercable.fr 928947471 13023 195.132.1.103 (9 Jun 1999 16:57:51 GMT) Organization: Private Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cristal@cybercable.tm.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jun 1999 16:57:51 GMT Newsgroups: sci.techniques.xtallography,bionet.xtallography,bionet.software,sci.med.pharmacy