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Article #3602Re: Don't Feed the Pigeons! Re: (fwd) Santa Cruz Homeless Update....
From: Chip Flintknapper
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:23
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:23
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Tim May wrote: > In article <1172454461.376750.93700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>, > <dhm_at_best_dot_com@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Feb 25, 1:03 pm, Tim May <timc...@removethis.got.net> wrote: >> >>> .........And yet they drift into town, find the needle >>> exchange place, sign up for the marijuana giveaways, seek "benefits," >>> complain about how they are not being given shelter, and whine to >>> liberals like Becky and Robert and Dan that they are being repressed.) >>> >> Don't you fall into the same trap as the other jerks. This journalism >> is a hobby with me. I started into the Homeless-schtick with the >> attitude and reading of a land use attorney. The others all wanted to >> be the Homeless Advocate-Representative Beegshots. I've been >> 'homeless' for the better part of 35 years. Do you think that I ever >> wanted these people to 'represent' me? Hell no. > > A strange kind of "journalism" when one ONLY forwards and reports the > Trotskyite politics. > > Even for the typically biased "reporters" of our age, they at least > make a token effort to analyze what is being said. > > Speaking of which, you forwarded Becky's claim that people are being > harassed because they don't do enough shopping downtown....and yet I > reported that in more than 22 years of spending a _lot_ of time in > downtown Santa Cruz I have not been harassed (except by bums, winoes, > and beggars), nor have I been arrested, run out of town, ticketed, etc. > > And this is without any apparent "shopping" on my part. Which means > Becky's causal claim is shot to pieces. > > So, as a self-proclaimed "journalist", did you investigate Becky's > claim? Did you evaluate it and her/their other socialist propaganda for > evidence of truth or falsity? > > What you are, Dan, is a mouthpiece. Not a journalist, a mouthpiece. > > This is what someone who only forwards or reports one particular group > of people's views is. A mouthpiece. > >> Robert and Becky closed off their list in a way that the public could >> not get access to what they were saying. They've always been Usenet >> clueless. Do you remember my website that had original and rare >> documents that nobody would want you to read? Get it? The website >> had little to do with 'homelessness'. It had a lot to do with >> history. Does that give you a clue about why I have few reservations >> about forwarding their stuff? Everyone, "left" and "right", will >> accuse me of being the other. > > If they wish to not be read, honor their wish. > > Frankly, Norse is much more interested in stamping his feet and making > threats to hold his breath in City Council meetings than he is in > making any kind of _case_ for what he (apparently) wants. > > I add "apparently" because it's never clear what his "demands" > are....building hotels for the bums, sending the word out to bums all > across Califiornia to come and move into the hotels? Free food for > those who don't want to work? Assigned camping spots in all of the > city's parks, so that taxpayers will not be able to use the very parks > their taxes have paid for? And so on. He thinks of himself as some sort > of political theorist, but where is his plan? And who has ever > critiqued or analyzed it? > > This is why he rants on one-page screeds that cannot be analyzed in any > meaningful way. This is why he fumes and rants at City Council > meetings. This is why he doesn't want his "thoughts" propagated on the > Net--he knows full well how incoherent they are. > > And you, his mouthpiece, are not honoring his obvious intentions to > keep his words limited to his quasi-literate street people allies. > > "Yeah, what Robert said! Right on! Food, not bombs! We gotta shut that > motherfucking bookstore DOWN! Yo, got any blow?" > >> At one point I learned things from Becky like who was suspected to be >> going around with baseball bats smashing people in their tents. That >> made it a different ball game for me. > > If the cops refuse to enforce the laws, the people have to. > > There is plenty of wilderness for people to camp in. But the bums are > not interested in camping qua camping. Rather, they want "social > services," access to drug-dealing centers, free food, handouts from > governemnt agencies, and no need to work. And they think San Lorenzo > Park is their toilet, their living room, and their place of business. > When the bums own the public places, and the cops look away, time for > the people to start bashing heads.... > > The Trollbusters cleaned up the bum problem for about six months back > when they were active. They accomplished more by knocking some heads > and pushing bums off the bridges than all of the do-gooder, blissninny > crap since. > > Busting heads of people who are stealing from us is morally righteous. > > Don't feed the pigeons. > > > --Tim May Did you just confess to a crime? Do you think that you can run around committing murder and get away with it? We have news for you, buddy. Morally righteous? You are a God Damned scum!
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