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Article #3677Re: (fwd) Santa Cruz Homeless Update - First Thoughts Toward Homeless Resistance
From: dhm_at_best_dot_com
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:16
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:16
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On Jan 23, 8:54 am, Queenie <queenie...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > Rudy, Daniel is homeless. I think his last response was serious. If > you're really interested in his "thoughts on homelessness", just ask > him. I believe he has a whole website devoted to the issue, by the > way. > > ~Queenie in Santa Cruz, now returning you to your regular programming. I never had a whole website devoted to homelessness. I founded the Usenet newsgroup alt.society.homeless to make sure there would be a free, unmoderated, uncensored forum over the issue. At the time, others were creating more popular listservs but were often claiming to be or to represent the homeless when they weren't, and they were asserting ownership (exclusionary and stigma generating rights) over their lists in a way that they could filter content and people. It's funny now how Rudy Canoza personally attacks me for posting others' stuff. I used to insert a disclaimer but it's a bit more onerous posting from the web. Rudy supports content filtering. He can't delete the posts from the Usenet so he trying to hammer me with harassment. Everyone uses a straw people at one time or another to assert their views. "The Homeless" are a classic case of this, whether used by Robert Norse or Rudy Canoza, or by the homeless themselves. So what's the big deal? It's obvious that someone has standing to express one's own views, but lacks standing to formally represent the views of 'straw' people, assuming such people are also real.
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