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Re: (fwd) Santa Cruz Homeless Update - First Thoughts Toward Homeless Resistance

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From: dhm_at_best_dot_com
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:55
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On Jan 23, 4:16 pm, dhm_at_best_dot_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 23, 8:54 am, Queenie <queenie...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rudy, Daniel is homeless.  I think his last response was serious.  If
> > you're really interested in his "thoughts on homelessness", just ask
> > him.  I believe he has a whole website devoted to the issue, by the
> > way.
>
> > ~Queenie in Santa Cruz, now returning you to your regular programming.I never had a whole website devoted to homelessness.  I founded the
> Usenet newsgroup alt.society.homeless to make sure there would be a
> free, unmoderated, uncensored forum over the issue.  At the time,
> others were creating more popular listservs but were often claiming to
> be or to represent the homeless when they weren't, and they were
> asserting ownership (exclusionary and stigma generating rights) over
> their lists in a way that they could filter content and people.
>
> It's funny now how Rudy Canoza personally attacks me for posting
> others' stuff.  I used to insert a disclaimer but it's a bit more
> onerous posting from the web.  Rudy supports content filtering.  He
> can't delete the posts from the Usenet so he trying to hammer me with
> harassment.
>
> Everyone uses a straw people at one time or another to assert their
> views.  "The Homeless" are a classic case of this, whether used by
> Robert Norse or Rudy Canoza, or by the homeless themselves.  So what's
> the big deal?  It's obvious that someone has standing to express one's
> own views, but lacks standing to formally represent the views of
> 'straw' people, assuming such people are also real.

fyi, I seem to make diction errors too often - this is because I go
back and edit a more serious posting before sending it off without
sufficiently proofreading it.  Here I started out with the word
'strawman' as in 'straw man argument', but then I decided to use 'straw
people' instead because a 'straw man' argument is regarded as something
more narrow in terms of its meaning.  I needed to expand the concept to
express what I needed but I forgot to remove the "a" in the sentence
'Everyone uses (a) straw people at one time or another....'   I might
have better written "'The Homeless' are a classic _example_ of this",
"It is funny how Rudy engages in ad hominem attacks against me...", "He
can't delete the posts from the Usenet so he _has been_ trying to
hammer me with harassment." "were often claiming to be _homeless_ or to
represent the homeless when they weren't..."

So basically there's nothing too wrong with my brain in this respect.
Like Jubal Harshaw, I could use a secretary.
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Subject: Re: (fwd) Santa Cruz Homeless Update - First Thoughts Toward Homeless Resistance
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