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Re: The Critical Massholes are coming to San Diego!!!

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From: John W. Herberg
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:00
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>On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 05:35:27 GMT, John W. Herberg wrote:

... facts about warming trends deleted ...

>>If you want to question wether man is the main culprit, I can easily
>>find some facts on that too, but I will leave you w/this:
>>
>>A LARGE MAJORITY of scientists who have spent their career on this
>>very topic say global warming is occuring and we are the cause.  Of
>>course, there is a small minority (mostly funded by industry) that
>>disagrees.  But, I think you'll find some level of disagreement among
>>any subject.

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:36:40 -0800, jafo@cheetah.net (Jafo) wrote:

>You will indeed.  None of the facts you've posted above can with
>certainty be blamed on the works of man, as climate cycles have
>occurred throughout geological history.  Man may or may not have 
>some level of responsibility here.

So, if I understand you correctly, you're willing to agree a warming
trend exists, but you don't necessarily believe it's caused by man -
true?

If that's the case, I have 2 things to say.

1 - facts

- combustion of carbon fuels, deforestation, cattle grazing, and rice
farms release carbon into the air

- carbon reacts w/oxygen in the air to create carbon dioxide

- carbon dioxide traps heat in the earth's atmosphere

- the amount of carbon being released into the atmosphere has been
continually increasing

- man's activities listed in the 1st fact have been continually
increasing 


2 - proof and theories

Most things just can't be proven 100%. Theories are proposed based on
observations and studies.  As time goes on, if the theory is not
disproved and enough scientists believe it's true, it becomes accepted
as truth.

For example, nobody knowns 100% for sure smoking causes cancer, but
there's enough studies pointing towards it, and the majority of
scientists believe it.  So, it is now accepted as truth (w/most
people).

Among the scientific community (and most of the rest of the world) it
is widely accepted that man is the cause of global warming.  It's only
questioned in America.  As far as I know, all scientists that have
spoken against this theory are funded by oil/coal industries.  BTW,
enviro groups don't fund all of those that believe in the theory (they
don't have the $$'s).

For anyone that doesn't already spend too much time on the internet,
the Union Of Concerned Scientists has a good site on global warming
(http://www.ucsusa.org).  They tend to be more into facts than some
enviro groups.



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From: herberj@ibm.net (John W. Herberg)
Subject: Re: The Critical Massholes are coming to San Diego!!!
Date: 1997/12/21
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