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Article #17157Re: "Australia joins China in Censoring the Internet" (TechCrunch)
From: Vote out Brendan Nelson
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:39
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:39
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kirkus vomit wrote: > "Kent Paul Dolan" <xanthian@well.com> wrote in message > news:0e2cdaef-b959-4fa6-a198-134f66defcae@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >> Bob Bain <+...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> >>> You have made false accusations against me in a >>> public forum. > ... <gawp> perish the thought! > b > >> Produce one and document that it is false. You >> merely _reinterpret_ my statements into strawmen, >> and then claim that those strawmen are false, which >> is nothing close to finding the original statements >> as written to be false. You are, in this behavior, >> simply acting demented. >> >>> You have also misinterpreted (grossly) statements >>> I may have made in private email. >> Really? In what _provable_ way are my >> interpretations incorrect? If you _read_ my words, >> rather than warping them into some entirely other >> words in your mind before ingesting them, you'll >> find I have been Caeser's wife indeed in sticking >> strictly to matters to which you have already made >> public and private confession. You've already had to >> retract many of your claims in this regard, and I >> fail to see any remaining substance you haven't >> already confessed to be true. >> >>> At least you haven't attempted to intimidate me >>> with threats to declare to Centrelink "earnings >>> from illegal activity" made in the name of Tony >>> Smith while my mother lay on her death bed - nor >>> have you suggested directly that one day the >>> police may knock on my door and beat me to a pulp >>> on account of the fact I discuss censorship, >>> ethics and legality in Usenet. >> This is merely an example of your pathologically >> insane semantic freighting; none of this has the >> least relationship to your claims that I have made >> false accusations against you, this is simply you >> being entirely intellectually dishonest by trying to >> associate my claims with matters repugnant to you >> and to your audience. >> >>> At that time I issued a complaint to Yahoo which >>> some seem to have regarded as "fun". >> This is a non sequitur, you dragging in material >> that has no relationship to the discussion, again an >> example of your intellectual dishonesty. >> >> You rambling on interminably about all the injuries >> the entirely world has putatively ever done to you >> has precisely no merit is supporting your false >> accusatin that I have libeled you. You seem unable >> not only to support that accusation, but even to >> stay focused on it for the length of a News article. >> >>> I am not at this point in time guilty of any >>> criminal activity >> What is that supposed to mean? You have already >> publicly in this very thread confessed to being >> tried, convicted, and fined for your behavior. >> That isn't something done to those innocent of >> criminal behavior. >> >>> and as noted am entitled to protection built into >>> the Statutes of New South Wales. >> That is a meaningless noise. All that protection was >> already given to you in a court of law, and you were >> _still_ convicted. >> >>> It is libellous to suggest that I have ever been >>> convicted of an offence involving Australia's >>> "less than liberal" censorship laws, >> But you have confessed in this thread to that very >> fact. >> >>> which by implication can be taken to mean that I >>> have been convicted of being in possession of >>> child pornography >> No it cannot, that is a strawman repeatedly dragged >> into these discussions by you because you are >> entirely unable to cope with reality. You were found >> to have attempted to import an unclassified video >> tape when doing so was A VIOLATION OF THE LAW OF >> AUSTRALIA. Full stop. No child porn in any way >> involved. >> >> Quite trying to drag kiddie porn into the discussion >> _in your defense_, a despicable example of your >> incredibly intellectual dishonesty and attempts at >> misdirection in these discussions. >> >>> something that is not and has never been true and >>> never will be true. >> No one said it was, except you trying to misdirect >> the discussion. >> >>> I have at no time attempted to harrass you. >> Sending me threats to quit libeling you when I have >> never done any such thing was harrassment, full >> stop. >> >> I took the trouble to copy that to your ISP, as I >> don't at all intend to be bullied by you or any >> other pissant intellectual munchkin unable to keep >> his thinking straight for the five consecutive >> minutes it takes to type a News posting. >> >>> I simply posted two opinion pieces from the net - >>> items which are being discussed in blogs and open >>> forums at the present time. >> That is a non sequitur, your harrassment was in the >> private email my response to which you dishonestly >> posted without permission, discussion, or necessity. >> >> Since doing so convicts you of intellectual >> dishonesty from your own keyboard, you've just made >> yourself a laughingstock. >> >> Not that you weren't one already, so this merely >> reinforces your reputation as a whiner and cheat. >> >>> I am not under suspicion in respect of illegal >>> activity. >> No, you are ALREADY tried, convicted, and punished >> by a fine for illegal activity. >> >> This statement by you trying to rewrite that history >> all of which you have confessed in public, by >> misdirection now, is merely yet another example of >> your intellectual dishonesty at work. >> >> Double jeopardy being presumably as unacceptable to >> the law of Oz as it is to the law of the USA, you >> would have to commit new illegal activity to again >> be under suspicion of having done so, unless your >> authorities just habitually grab suspicions out of >> the passing breeze and apply them at random to >> Ozites. >> >>> I have however pointed out that certain items in >>> my possession (and sent to me by those entrusted >>> with enforcing the law) have caused me much misery >>> and grief to the point where legal action may be >>> an appropriate remedy. >> Bull. Your "misery and grief" are entirely >> self-inflicted, entirely created in self-interest by >> you in your attempts to rewrite your personal >> history, i.e., the represent flat out insanity, and >> are not the business of the constituted authorities >> to ameliorate. If the material offended you so >> greatly, a rubbish tip was a much better target for >> it than a law enforcement office. >> >>> I can only repeat I am awaiting a reply from the >>> Prime Minister of Australia (Kevin Rudd) in >>> respect to an email sent to him on 12th. >>> September 2007 regarding the grief these items and >>> the accusations have caused me. >> Um, seem my previous note that inaction is what >> bureaucrats do. >> >> If you are waiting to get your life out of the >> gutter into which you have discarded it until some >> bureaucrat takes the time to sort out your >> personality problems as directed at video tapes and >> the delusion that conservative Australia's freedom >> of access to video taped material should match in >> all respects the most liberal treatment you can find >> applied anywhere elsewhere on planet Earth, you are >> in line for an _immense_ wait. >> >> Sorting out constituants' mental health issues is in >> no way part of the charter a bureaucrat takes on by >> being elected. They have enough problems dealing >> with constituants' _sane_ requests. >> >>> If necessary I can produce letters to people >>> entrusted with the enforcement of law in this >>> country and inparticular a letter to the former >>> Attorney General of Australia - Philip Ruddock in >>> respect of those matters. >> What is necessary is for you to find the sanity to >> stop annoying the constituted authorities with your >> mental health issues, not to keep flogging them in >> ever greater detail on Usenet as if that were going >> to make the world match the demented map you have of >> it in your head. >> >>> You may note that copies of this Usenet posting >>> are being sent to those whom you appear to >>> believe should sever my Internet connection - >>> simply because I dispute the wrongful allegations >>> you have made. >> Well, to do that, you'd first have to list such >> wrongful allegations, without dragging in your many, >> many strawman misstatements of what I've written, >> and then you'd have to show how what I've written, >> with great care by me not to go beyond exactly what >> you've already confessed, is in any way different >> from the things to which you _have_ confessed. >> >> Instead, you have limited yourself to whining, >> misdirection, erection of strawmen, generalities >> behind which are no specifics, and a whole litany of >> intellectually dishonest behaviors to try to warp >> those true things I've written to be some entirely >> other things which I have NOT written, because the >> true things I've said about you distress your >> inablity to honestly confront your own misdeeds once >> and for all and then proceed with your life leaving >> them behind you as lessons learned. >> >> You most profoundly are REJECTING learning the >> needed life lessons from your offense, trial, and >> conviction, in your ongoing flood of boring trivia >> about the very mild censorship laws of Australia. >> >>> Bob Bain >> xanthian, not withdrawing a damned word. > > For alll your anonymous browsing needs visit http://www.hide-my-ip.com
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