🚀 go-pugleaf

Randy Cox wrote:
> "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message 
>>
>>Instead of just throwing up his hands and surrendering like a Frenchman - 
>>he should have gone after the criminals... unless he was committing his 
>>own set of crimes.
> 
> He made a free market move.  He couldn't compete so he moved to another area 
> of production.   "...going after the criminals" would have required 
> political capital.  That is not free market.  That is very NEOCON!  I guess 
> he wasn't a neocon.

NeoConservatism has nothing to do with it.
Your friend was perfectly capable of competing... as are we all.
He *could* have driopped dime on the criminals.. but he took the 
coward's way out.


>>The police department would have been delighted to get publicity over a 
>>bust of organized crime.  All you gotta do is drop a couple of dimes - one 
>>to the cops, the other to the local Fox affiliate.
> 
> Give me a break!  Illegals working for contractors sweep the floors of the 
> police station.

So what you're saying is that nearly the whole community... from the 
business leaders to the police, welcome the undocumented workers.

You can count me among that community.



> I had a cousin-in-law that had an illegal hit and run his pickup.  He chased 
> 'em down, forced them off the road, and made a "citizen's arrest".  He took 
> the driver to the police.  They let the illegal go and told my cousin-in-law 
> he was lucky they didn't arrest him for kidnapping.

... and so he just gave up, right?
He should have sued the cops - he woulda got rich.



>>So, how did the local cops, INS and news stations react when you call 
>>them?
> 
> I guess by now, you've figured out I didn't call them.  I've called years 
> before; they told me they appreciated my concern...and they did nothing. 
> This is Texas!

Indeed!  That's why you shouldn't give up after a phone call.  As long 
as people like you are not willing to pursue the matter, people like me 
will be free to pay the undocumented workers to come here.

You can't count on the nanny state to do anything when you yourself are 
not willing to do anything.


>>>>The solution is to make it easier for them to get here legally.
> 
> Close the border first.  That means having gates through which we know who 
> is coming.  Since we allow very few in legally, I'm not totally against 

Can't close the border.
The economy can't handle it and the people don't want it, and the few 
who do are not willing to pay the price.

So you're chasing an impossible dream.  You can't go the direction you 
want to, and you don't have the sense to change course.


> You 
> seem to think there are jobs only they will do.  I don't believe that for a 
> moment.

You should see all the produce that's rotting in the fields right now.
You won't let them pick it, and you won't pick it yourself.

> There will always be anarchists.  I believe in limited government 
> myself...but I believe in a few laws and strict enforcment of them.  You 

Well - belief is all fine and dandy - but it's worthless without action.


> You don't know what your are talking about, but you think you do.  Did you 
> notice I didn't use the word Mexican ...but greencard...and illegal.

I'm a smart feller.  I don't need you to confess your bigotry openly in 
order to see what you are.

>>We just need folks like you to grow a backbone and report the crimes when 
>>you see them.
> 
> 
> When the police show an inclination to  pay any attention, I'll do that.  I 

And there's your catch 22.
The police CANNOT respond to your complaint if you don't complain to them.

> After 9-11 and the sudden appearance of super patriots, 

OK - I'm done with you.