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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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> They feel much the same way you do about our guest workers.
> They too, consider themselves middle-roaders... and on many issues they
> are moderate - or even outright liberal.
Doesn't sound like the Plano I know.  They certainly don't vote liberal or
moderate....Strictly Neocon.
>
> But then the bigot comes out.
> They talk about Mexicans stealing jobs - while getting $45k in a job no
> illegal could possibly sneak into.

?? I make about $46k with no overtime, if I work consistently.  I have a
neighbor that was a non-union electrical contractor.  He got out of the
business because the green carders with illegal assistants priced him out.
The green card is fair competition; the illegals are not!  They are illegal.

> They talk about the damage Mexicans do to the economy - while buying
> affordable produce.

Well, I don't talk about the damage they do to the economy.  They are part
of it and they earn their money.  I complain about the illegality.  I don't
like the lowering of standards, like safety...but that's what happens when
outside the law.

LOOK another job Plano, Texas......about 16 years ago....Southland building.
4 white guys on the job (if you count me white.)
Mexican fell and got hurt.  Two days later, I asked one of his co-workers
how was he.  Like the Hispanics often do, he ignored me.  Several times I
asked, finally I asked when he couldn't ignore me.  He looks around over his
shoulder then asks, "Don't you know?"

I was taken aback.  I was afraid he was about to tell me he died.

I said, "No, what happened?"

He said, almost a whisper!  "They take him to highway and drop him off.
They tell him they are going to 7-11 and call INS, he better be gone when
they get here!"

Outside the law is outside the law!  I say fix the broken
illegals........then ask them who their last employer.  Fine that employer
the full medical expense plus $10,000.

Some people say they come for the welfare.  Not true!  They come for the
work!  Stop the illegal work...they stop coming.  Mexico needs an economy of
their own.


>
> Then they start talking about how much MORE we should spend on a LIBERAL
> expansion of government laws... while complaining about having to pay too
> much in taxes.

ahhhhhhhhh!  You are right....that kind of liberal....neocon republican.
Yes you are absolutely right.
>
> The solution, of course, is not to pass new laws making it harder for them
> to get here.
> The solution is to make it easier for them to get here legally.

If you want to vote to make it easier to get here legally, you have a vote,
I have a vote.  I believe in democracy even when I'm outvoted.  If you want
to allow them to come illegally, then I'm against that with one vote plus an 
insistence on following our law.

Well, there should be some allowed to come, but not as many as are here.
They don't "steal" jobs but they do take jobs.  Illegal workforce in not
free market force....it is illegal.  It violates safety laws, labor laws,
all kinds of laws.

There is no such thing as a job Americans won't take.  It is always a
question of the pay offered.  I detest when so called "free market" people
talk about jobs Americans won't take.  It is not true.  There are jobs
offered at below market prices...........just like products offered at above
market prices.  Free market says those jobs and the products should adjust
to market levels or be ignored in favor of more efficient players and their
jobs and products.

Randy R. Cox



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>> If I saw someone at a hospital deny anyone medical, I couldn't force them
>> to offer it, but I could raise some kind of hell!
>
> Very noble.