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When NASA Scientists Attack
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Author: Just A Guy
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:20
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When NASA Scientists Attack
Written by Tom Fitton
Friday, 15 January 2010 20:56

It has not been a good month for the global warming crowd.

A few weeks ago, I told you about the "Climategate" scandal, where
thousands of emails and documents, hacked from a prominent climate
research center, painted global warming scientists in a most
unfavorable light. The emails provided hard evidence that scientists
pushing the global warming agenda conspired to squash the dissenting
opinions of rival scientists, going so far as to try to exclude
contrary views from important scientific publications.

Well this week, Judicial Watch released its own set of emails and
documents obtained from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies
(GISS). And once again, global warming scientists do not come off
well.


This particular set of documents relates to a controversy that erupted
in 2007 when Canadian blogger Stephen McIntyre exposed an error in
NASA's handling of raw temperature data from 2000-2006 that
exaggerated the reported rise in temperature readings in the United
States. What happened when NASA corrected the error? The new data
apparently caused a reshuffling of NASA's rankings for the hottest
years on record in the United States, with 1934 replacing 1998 at the
top of the list. (Kind of makes it harder to argue the planet is
getting warmer when the hottest year on record in the US was 75 years
ago.)

These new documents, which our intrepid investigators obtained through
the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), include internal Goddard
Institute emails detailing attempts by NASA scientists to deal with
the media firestorm resulting from the controversy. Of particular
interest are emails involving GISS head James Hansen. In one exchange,
for example, Hansen tells a reporter from Bloomberg that NASA had not
previously published rankings with 1998 atop the list as the hottest
year on record in the 20th century.

Email from Demian McLean, Bloomberg to Jim Hansen, August 14, 2007:
"The U.S. figures showed 1998 as the warmest year. Nevertheless, NASA
has indeed newly ranked 1934 as the warmest year..."

Email Response from James Hansen to Demian McLean, August 14, 2007:
"...We have not changed ranking of warmest year in the U.S. As you
will see in our 2001 paper we found 1934 slightly warmer, by an
insignificant hair over, 1998. We still find that result. The flaw
affected temperatures only after 2000, not 1998 and 1934."

Email from NASA Scientist Makiko Sato to James Hansen, August 14,
2007: "I am sure I had 1998 warmer at least once on my own temperature
web page..." (Email includes temperature chart dated January 1, 2007.)

(This issue also crops up in email communications with New York Times
reporter Andrew Revkin a little over a week later.)

According to the NASA email, NASA's incorrect temperature readings
resulted from a "flaw" in a computer program used to update annual
temperature data.

Hansen, clearly frustrated by the attention paid to the NASA error,
called McIntyre a "pest" and suggested global warming doubters "should
be ready to crawl under a rock by now." Hansen also suggests that
those calling attention to the climate data error did not have a
"light on upstairs."

Many will debate whether the mishandling of the data was an honest
mistake, or a purposeful attempt to exaggerate the global warming
crisis. But in the least, these documents ought to be embarrassing for
NASA, especially given the recent Climategate scandal. Needless to
say, NASA has an obligation to be completely transparent with its
handling of temperature data. And here's an idea: Instead of insulting
those who point out mistakes, maybe NASA scientists should try to
engage the public in an open, professional and honest manner. Just a
thought.
Re: When NASA Scientists Attack
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Author: mark
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:27
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On Jan 17, 1:20 am, Just A Guy <Jus...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> When NASA Scientists Attack
> Written by Tom Fitton
> Friday, 15 January 2010 20:56
>
> It has not been a good month for the global warming crowd.
>
> A few weeks ago, I told you about the "Climategate" scandal, where
> thousands of emails and documents, hacked from a prominent climate
> research center, painted global warming scientists in a most
> unfavorable light. The emails provided hard evidence that scientists
> pushing the global warming agenda conspired to squash the dissenting
> opinions of rival scientists, going so far as to try to exclude
> contrary views from important scientific publications.
>
> Well this week, Judicial Watch released its own set of emails and
> documents obtained from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies
> (GISS). And once again, global warming scientists do not come off
> well.
>
> This particular set of documents relates to a controversy that erupted
> in 2007 when Canadian blogger Stephen McIntyre exposed an error in
> NASA's handling of raw temperature data from 2000-2006 that
> exaggerated the reported rise in temperature readings in the United
> States. What happened when NASA corrected the error? The new data
> apparently caused a reshuffling of NASA's rankings for the hottest
> years on record in the United States, with 1934 replacing 1998 at the
> top of the list. (Kind of makes it harder to argue the planet is
> getting warmer when the hottest year on record in the US was 75 years
> ago.)
>
> These new documents, which our intrepid investigators obtained through
> the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), include internal Goddard
> Institute emails detailing attempts by NASA scientists to deal with
> the media firestorm resulting from the controversy. Of particular
> interest are emails involving GISS head James Hansen. In one exchange,
> for example, Hansen tells a reporter from Bloomberg that NASA had not
> previously published rankings with 1998 atop the list as the hottest
> year on record in the 20th century.
>
> Email from Demian McLean, Bloomberg to Jim Hansen, August 14, 2007:
> "The U.S. figures showed 1998 as the warmest year. Nevertheless, NASA
> has indeed newly ranked 1934 as the warmest year..."
>
> Email Response from James Hansen to Demian McLean, August 14, 2007:
> "...We have not changed ranking of warmest year in the U.S. As you
> will see in our 2001 paper we found 1934 slightly warmer, by an
> insignificant hair over, 1998. We still find that result. The flaw
> affected temperatures only after 2000, not 1998 and 1934."
>
> Email from NASA Scientist Makiko Sato to James Hansen, August 14,
> 2007: "I am sure I had 1998 warmer at least once on my own temperature
> web page..." (Email includes temperature chart dated January 1, 2007.)
>
> (This issue also crops up in email communications with New York Times
> reporter Andrew Revkin a little over a week later.)
>
> According to the NASA email, NASA's incorrect temperature readings
> resulted from a "flaw" in a computer program used to update annual
> temperature data.
>
> Hansen, clearly frustrated by the attention paid to the NASA error,
> called McIntyre a "pest" and suggested global warming doubters "should
> be ready to crawl under a rock by now." Hansen also suggests that
> those calling attention to the climate data error did not have a
> "light on upstairs."
>
> Many will debate whether the mishandling of the data was an honest
> mistake, or a purposeful attempt to exaggerate the global warming
> crisis. But in the least, these documents ought to be embarrassing for
> NASA, especially given the recent Climategate scandal. Needless to
> say, NASA has an obligation to be completely transparent with its
> handling of temperature data. And here's an idea: Instead of insulting
> those who point out mistakes, maybe NASA scientists should try to
> engage the public in an open, professional and honest manner. Just a
> thought.


Hi just a paid off guy for fossil fuel how about these links?
small taste of what I am talking about:


>Ocean Acidity:



       No, change that, learn to use accurate titles and
sub-titles, there are no acid oceans.


>Acid Test: The Global Challenge of Ocean Acidification
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cqCvcX7buo

>"The world's marine ecosystems risk being severely damaged
>by ocean acidification unless there are dramatic cuts in
>CO2 emissions, warn scientists.


>More than 150 top marine researchers have voiced their
>concerns through the "Monaco Declaration", which warns
>that changes in acidity are accelerating. "
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7860350.stm



         Wrong wording again, must be a news writer.


>NBC Nightly News Ocean Acidification 04 22 2009 191009
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIBTuJqPHIk

>Creeping deserts:


>Experts Urge Better Management And Information About Desert Spread


>The United Nations called Wednesday for better management and a
>wider spreading of scientific knowledge to fight the creeping spread
>of deserts across the world. At a conference
>in Tunis organised by the UN educational, scientific and cultural
>organisation UNESCO some 300 scientists adopted a resolution calling
>on govermments to make the issue a "major priority".
>http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Experts_Urge_Better_Management_And_...



         Building reflecting roofs where there is any
moisture at all would enhance organics.


>Water, rare and precious in arid Mauritania
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsIZ6FYhQNA

>Relocation of crops due to climate change:


>Warmer climate moves tropical fruit cultivation northward
>http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2907946



         Sounds good to me, can it get too warm for citrus
near bodies of water?


>US: Warming climate jeopardizes California Fruit and Nut Crops

>Many fruit and nut trees need chilly winters to emerge from their
>dormant period and begin to flower in spring, but global warming
>is already making California's climate too hot for these lucrative
>crops, according to new research from the University of California,
>Davis and the University of Washington.
>http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=48109



          Tree nuts are not a big food staple, you are
really stretching with this one.


>Glaciers:

>Photos Capture Melting Splendor of Alaska's Glaciers
>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6369091


>Week of 4.17.09
>On Thin Ice
>http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/516/index.html


>Retreat of the Tasman Glacier (NZ)
>http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/IPY/multimedia/ipyimg_20080128c.html


>Climate change melting US glaciers at faster rate, study finds



          That is more like the usual rant.



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>US geological survey commissioned by Obama administration indicates
>a sharp rise in the melt rate of key American glaciers over the last
>10-15 years
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/aug/06/america-glacier-melt

>Glaciers: Then and Now
>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GlobalWarming/popup?id=1756218&conte...


>Glaciers go, leaving drought, conflict and tension in Andes
>http://wwwp.dailyclimate.org/tdc-newsroom/2009/05/glaciers-go-leaving...


>Wine regions feel the heat
>By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY


>http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2006-06-01-wine-warming_x.htm


>Everest's Melting Glaciers


>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJ9F8WKXVU


>Himalayan sherpas bugged by the sight of house flies at 5,000m


>http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/oct/12/himalayas-nepal-cli...


>part 1
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwaN4JHvFk


>part 2
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FI97yuKSjU


>part 3
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPT1grLGpL0


>part 4
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo-rHUlWq5I


>part 5 - CO2 DOES run HOTTER - scientifically proven!
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynj51jhrE18


>Tree Rings: Counting the Years of Global Warming
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqicp4PvHrY


>The evidence is against you.



         But not for CO2.



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>Greenland's ice melting faster than expected - 28 Sept 09
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf2iGpeeg88

>Must see video of Greenland melting (2009.02.20)
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F9FbdqGRsg


>Greenland ice lakes drain at speed of Niagara Falls
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RVAiIkTF3E&NR=1


>Will Climate Change Affect the Greenland Ice Sheet?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iobBu8mSWAI


>NASA: Increasing Rate of Ice Melt in Greenland (2005.05.20)
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SoBF4vFArg&feature=related


>Trailer for Vanishing...or Khanty of melting Siberia
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pNfPXNXQ78


>Warming hits 'tipping point'
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