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Started by mcs
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38
A PLEA To ALL DOCTORS and RESEARCHERS IN USA
Author: mcs
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38
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I plead that all doctors , especially ones that do research find out what the differences in health are for all people who get the kind of pollution / greenhouse gases, coal and concentrated car and bus and truck diesel emissions, oil refinery emissions and industry emissions a big city like our city (Philly) gets compared with people who get clean(er) air.Not only do I think in almost every conceivable area, that people who are exposed to this much particulate pollution daily (not good air . but at least moderate as defined by epa and airnow.gov) are more prone to diseases of lungs heart and most every area of the body MORE but they lose their health faster and have more asthma and respiratory disease. I further urge epa to find out if our readings our accurate. As you know I claim I can tell pollution numbers by just being in the room or outside of an area and I am urging federal and health inspectors to look at particulate pollution and its affects on people especially as we get fewer and fewer days of clean air . I am not sure if a moderate particulate rating in my area affects people the same way as moderate in another area does as the exact chemicals are different. What I do know is my body shuts down on so called moderate readings. Our area has more cancers and heart disease and especially asthma and respiratory disease. I want to know why more isn't being done to show effects of worse and worse air on cities like mine who get fewer and fewer good air days yet everyone is slient about it and no policy makers are doing anything about what I call a urgent and emergency situation that affects every baby and adult who lives here. The longer the more effects. . I would like for researchers to show exact correlations between peoples health correlated to how close they are to areas like mine compared to people who get clean air. and ate the same relatively healthy things and didn't smoke or take drugs. I would like to see mortality rates too, although mortality is not as important as lost health and lost productivity . I would like to see the average persons productivity and age they retire here compared to people who get good air. My assertion is big oil and news consolidation has allowed millions of people to live in areas where they are being harmed greatly without a gov or leaders doing anything about it. In another aspect I think some people actually might know of the damages as we are targeted constantly with more health care commercials then I have ever seen and here again I would bet my life its because the health care providers and drug companies know whats happening here and rather sell meds to people who are poisoned then tell people why they need them.... The comparisons in health care commercials might not be able to be done, but if they could my assertions who get more and why might also show the same correlations of people at risk unfairly without anyone protecting them... and still not doing enough in most affected areas to curb it.*pollution Please realize I think total amount of pollution is not necessarily the only way to compare rates of pollution. One has to compare the total length of time people are exposed to moderate or worse particulate pollution like we get compared to people who get clean air also. My assertion is total amount can be limited to a few days and may not show cause and affect as much as people who keep getting less and less of just good quality air. If anyone wants to contact me and comment please email me at mcsantpollution@yahoo.com I am warning people before many people of the dangers going on and I want to know why more isn't done to protect people. All things are connected and we don't need to harm ourselves in order to protect old energy policies.
Re: A PLEA To ALL DOCTORS and RESEARCHERS IN USA
Author: Karen Y Byrd
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:13
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:13
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38:49 GMT, mcs <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote: >I am warning people before many people of the dangers going on and I want >to know why more isn't done to protect people. All things are connected and >we don't need to harm ourselves in order to protect old energy policies. You know if you would shift some of this talk to getting people to STOP SMOKING, I would be in your corner 100%. You can't ignore smoking(and 2nd hand smoke) as a factors when talking about lung and heart disease.
Re: A PLEA To ALL DOCTORS and RESEARCHERS IN USA
Author: mcs
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:18
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:18
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"Karen Y Byrd" <kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote in message news:slrnfsaof7.i7h.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu... > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38:49 GMT, mcs <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>I am warning people before many people of the dangers going on and I want >>to know why more isn't done to protect people. All things are connected >>and >>we don't need to harm ourselves in order to protect old energy policies. > > You know if you would shift some of this talk to getting people > to STOP SMOKING, I would be in your corner 100%. > > You can't ignore smoking(and 2nd hand smoke) as a factors when talking > about > lung and heart disease. its a giant issue and its the only issue that has gotten in the way ofme being totally impartial in my implications. I smoked, I have lung damage. Now does that automatically make all links to other things like f rated air and the consequences I stae are happening any less important ? No I just might be able to decipher damage from air quality faster and to that end I started to see that this is possibly affecting everyone downwind from this pollution the same , although some more then others and some faster then others. Look with all my posts I ask for objective ways to determine what is happening here. I am not asking for things others are asking for and suing for except I want more done sooner! and faster to protect people possibly ( most proably at risk).
Re: A PLEA To ALL DOCTORS and RESEARCHERS IN USA
Author: mcs
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:21
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:21
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MEANT TO SAY i AM NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING SOME OTHERS ARE NOT ASKING FOR OR SUING FOR I JUST AM ASKING TO ASCERTAIN RISK FASTER. OUR PARTICULATE POLLUTION REACHED 100 AT 4AM TTHIS MORNING. i COULD NOT BREATHE GOOD, NOW ITS BETTER A COLD FRONT HAS PASSED, BUT WE STILL GET TOO FEW DAYS OF DECENT AIR AND I AM BETTING MY LIFE IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN IT. I HAVE AIR FILTERS THAT TURN BLACK IN AS LITTLE AS 14 DAYS NOW. I WANT COMPARATIVE STUDIES AND THINGS DONE NOW TO HELP PEOPLE SURVIVE IN GOOD HEALTH THATS ALL AND I WANT TO JUDGE HARM NOW THAT THE PERCENT OF GOOD AIR DAYS IS SO FEW. "Karen Y Byrd" <kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote in message news:slrnfsaof7.i7h.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu... > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38:49 GMT, mcs <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>I am warning people before many people of the dangers going on and I want >>to know why more isn't done to protect people. All things are connected >>and >>we don't need to harm ourselves in order to protect old energy policies. > > You know if you would shift some of this talk to getting people > to STOP SMOKING, I would be in your corner 100%. > > You can't ignore smoking(and 2nd hand smoke) as a factors when talking > about > lung and heart disease. >
Re: A PLEA To ALL DOCTORS and RESEARCHERS IN USA
Author: Billy
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:36
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:36
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In article <dZbxj.16959$Hd.14348@trnddc02>, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am warning people before many people of the dangers going on and I want > to know why more isn't done to protect people. All things are connected and > we don't need to harm ourselves in order to protect old energy policies. $$$$$ What else. Oil and coal (electricity production) could be reduced more quickly by conservation than any other way (increase mpg, subsidize insulation, improve public transportation, stop wrapping everything in plastic, enforce pollution laws around refineries and chemical plants). Clean coal has been dropped because it reduces profit$. Scientific American had a whole magazine, about a year ago, dedicated to global warming, which parallels your concerns. EPA is blocking California's attempt to set mpg for cars sold in this state. Blame your CEO President. Formerly the president of Busto Oil. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
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