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David Moss <d-moss@adfa.oz.au> wrote in article <5ig0tv$ec1$1@euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au>...
> "rod speed" <rspeed@dragnet.com.au> foamed::
> >> >In article <adm.859880418@ccadfa>, David Moss <adm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au> wrote:
 
> >> >>If so I will personally prosecute anyone who 
> >> >>contravenes the Crimes Act in this way. 
 
> >Pigs arse you will, put up a more convincing line in utterly mindless bullshit Moss. 

> >> >>I will also prosecute the AG for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. 

> >Fat chance. 

> >> >>Go clutch at another straw, that one just sank.

> >Pigs arse it did, this utterly mindless bullshit fools absolutely no one at all.
 
> I love it when people resort to profanity in argument.

Who cares what you love Dave ?  No one much. The vast bulk of 
us have noticed that you fundys dont matter a damn anymore. 

> Not only does it prove conclusively that they have nothing coherent to say on the topic, 

Pigs arse it does, all it proves is that they choose to do things differently 
to you silly fundys Dave. And WE dont try to ram OUR opinion on how 
things should be done down others throats like you damned fundys. 

> but it paints a far better self portrait than pages of flaming could ever daub.
 
Watch out you dont do blind boy. 

> As to litigation, lets just say I am not inexperienced in the concept.
 
Whoopy do. I repeat, its utterly mindless bullshit. Fundys like you wont be able to 
do a damned thing about the huge amount of voluntary euthanasia thats going on 
every single day right thruout Australia. Whatever you damned fundys think about that. 

> >> >Well, given the opinion surveys, perhaps we the people should 
> >> >be suing Parliament (and yourself as an unrepresentative 
> >> >minority group lobbyist) for perverting the course of justice.
 
> >> Be my guest, so long as you pay your own costs.
 
> >Maybe we should be saying that to the ADFA too Dave, that you are 
> >welcome to free speech and to proselytize your line on the net but 
> >NOT to use the resources of a taxpayer funded system to do so. You 
> >are welcome to pay your own costs on a commercial system however. 
 
> Jeeze, not _another one ?
 
Fraid so, plenty of us taxpayers dont see why we should be 
paying a cent towards some damned fundy running a line 
thats a million miles from what the vast bulk of people think.

> Lets see, what time is it :
> <ccadfa_adm>_4 % date
> Wed Apr  9 21:30:16 EST 1997
> <ccadfa_adm>_5 % 
> 
> Oh, its 9.30pm. 

Whoopy do. You can pay for the use of a commercial system Dave.
We taxpayers dont see why we should be paying a cent towards some 
damned fundy running a line nothing like what most of use think. 

> I just checked the operational status of the hardware linking 1300 students 
> to the Internet.  I checked the operation of the modem pool and discovered 
> 1 bad line and one modem connecting at 7500baud instead of 14.4k. 

Who cares ?  You are welcome to pay for time on a commercial system if you want 
to spruik your fundy line. You aint welcome to use a taxpayer funded system to do so. 

Reams of more similarly mindless bullshit flushed. 

> >> Oh yes, I am not a lobbyist for an unrepresentative minority group,
 
> >Pigs arse you arent. 

> >> I am simply a self motivated private individual. 

> >Fine, you are welcome to pay your OWN costs when doing that Dave.
 
> I am. Where appropriate.

Lies. You can do that for ALL your fundy spruiking. No reason 
why we should be contributing a cent to your fundy campaign. 

> Take a look at http://www.geocities.com/~dmoss

No thanks, I'll look at your stuff like this I'm replying to instead. 

> >And for all your bluff and bluster, you sure wont be paying for 
> >the prosecution of the NT AG out of your own pocket either.
 
> No, because when you win, you get awarded costs. 

Fraid its nothing like that simple Dave. PARTICULARLY with private prosecutions. 

> Its great when you know you are right !
 
You clearly know fuck all about the legal system. Knowing you are 
right proves sweet fuck all about what a particular 'prosecution' ends 
up with, PARTICULARLY when the proof is beyond reasonable doubt. 

> >> The efforts of thousands of individuals like me prevailed 

> >For now. 
 
> I'm happy. 

Whatever turns you on I guess. Pity about the vast 
amount of voluntary euthanasia happening every day. 

You fundys wont be changing a damned thing there. Just like you never did on abortion. 

> Tomorrow is another day.
 
Is that right ?  With lots more getting assistance to kill 
themselves, whether you damned fundys approve or not. 

> >Pity there is FAR more voluntary euthanasia going on outside the NT 
> >than the number of people who availed themselves of the NT legislation. You 
> >clowns wont be having any effect on THAT Dave. However much you bluster.
 
> Frank Weaver showed there had been a 12.5% decrease in the 
> incidence of involuntary euthanasia in the Netherlands when 
> there was a 5000% increase in prosecutions for the offence. 

Who cares ?  I was talking about VOLUNTARY euthanasia here Dave. 

> Very interesting stat, don't you think ?
 
Nope, completely and utterly irrelevant to VOLUNTARY euthanasia here Dave. 

> >> over the efforts of the hundreds of people in the NCVE 
 
> >Pity about the opinion of the vast bulk of ordinary Australians 
> >Dave. But what the hell, you damned fundys have always been 
> >sure you know whats best for everyone else havent you ?
 
> What kind of fundy am I Rod ?

One who rams his opinion on euthanasia down the throats 
of a society who are MASSIVELY in favor of it Dave. 

> >Pity you cant do a damned thing about those who 
> >can end their lives unassisted. Bet that burns eh ?
 
> Not at all, suicide is soley the business of the person involved.

And if they want or need some assistance, its none of your damned business Dave. 

> Euthanasia takes more than one person, 

Mindlessly simplistic nonsense. There's also assisted suicide Dave. 

> I've had a small part in making that illegal once more. 

Pigs arse you did, you ACTUALLY had a small part in making that illegal 
IN THE NT again, and didnt do a damned thing about the massive amount 
of voluntary euthanasia that happens in Australia every single day.

> >> to convince MPs and Senators what was the right path for Australia on this issue.
 
> >Soorree, you didnt. No point in this sort of mindless posturing, the legislation
> >ONLY affects the TERRITORYS and you know it. A very small part of Australia. 
 
> Hands up anyone who can tell me how many Australian States allow euthanasia !

Pity it happens every day anyway Dave. As usual, plenty just choose to ignore
what you fundys have managed to ram down everyone else's throats. 
 
> >> >I wonder why people such as yourself are so determined 
> >> >to impose your minority opinions on the whole population.
 
> >> Personally its because I think deliberate killing is bad for Australian society. 
 
> >Your problem. We've got a democracy here Dave, if your views are those of 
> >a small minority, and they are, you get to mind your own damned business.
 
> Nope, sorry. 
 
Yep, soorree, your opinion is completely and utterly irrelevant except to a TINY 
handful who feel they need some assistance to commit suicide in the NT. 

The rest of the country carrys on regardless doing vastly more voluntary
euthanasia than ever happened in the NT under that law every single day 
Dave.  And there aint a damned thing you fundys can do about that. 

> Thats not how Australian democracy works. 

Fraid so, we just ignore bad law and carry on regardless. We did even 
when you damned fundys had suicide itself illegal too. Just ignored 
that. And there wasnt a damned thing you could do about that either. 

> We have this quaint little custom we inherited 
> from the poms called freedom of expression. 

Sure, you can say whatever you like Dave. Pity that what you 
damned fundys say on suicide and voluntary euthanasia has 
no effect what so ever on the large amount of it going on. 

> It allows us to tell the truth, 

And tell lies too. 

> debunk the myths, 

And spread more too. 

> and convince our MPs and Senators to ignore public opinion polls 

You didnt, they voted based on their own fundy prejudices instead. 

> in favourof doing what is clearly the right. 

And voluntary euthanasia keeps happening every single day Dave. 

> Given the usually spineless nature of politicians it was a very difficult task on this occasion.
 
Crap, you didnt do a damned thing, fundys like Andrews did. More utterly mindless bullshit. 

> >> Are you trying to tell me I should not speak out 
> >> about what I believe to be best for Australia ? 
 
> >No, he's succeeding in telling you that no minority like you lot are on this issue 
> >should be able to ram your minority view down others throats by legislation.
 
> Whats the point of having freedom of speech if you are 
> not allowed to convince MPs and Senators with it ?
 
Pity you didnt. 

>  It seems we have nothing in common.

You did eventually manage to get one bit right. Hardly what you 
might call rocket scientist material in the circumstances tho.