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> The BBB? Hmmmm don't really spend a whole lot of time or effort on
> that one.  in the USA you can go through your local Bureau of Consumer
>
> protection, a division of the Attorney general's office, and get far
> better results or mediation.  The BBB contrary to what most people
> believe is NOT a government association, it is NOT non-profit either,
> and further, their "rating system" leaves a hell of a lot to be
> desired.
>
> I do not know what civil actions are available in Canada, in the US,
> and PA in particular, you can sue anyone in small claims court ($4000
> or less) for a very nominal cost, which of course the person you sue
> pays for if you win.

The BBB in Toronto turned out to be a disasterous joke.  The guy who
headed up the outfit (Paul Tuz) turned out to be one of the scuzz
buckets that the BBB is supposed to protect you and me from.  He
"retired" and as a parting consideration scooped a couple of million
bucks as I recall.  The current BBB of Toronto is a shell of itself,
completely discredited, and trying to get out from under a debt of about
$600,000.  It was recently in the news as it's having trouble trying to
meet targets related to paying off that debt.  Mr. Tuz has been charged
with fraud &etc. but I'm sure he feels better after rolling around naked
for a while on his (?) money . . . he did a fair bit of damage.  An
outfit like the BBB lives and dies by its credibility.

Ontario has a Ministry of Consumer Affairs, but I don't know if it
follows the U.S. model.

Besides, this is Harris' Ontario.  Like as not you'll be greeted with,
"Well, where was your Common Sense?"

Terry