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Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?

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From: Marc Bissonnette
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 00:00
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In article <35a06ec6.39395417@news.alt.net>, dmytrik@syntac.net says...
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>Why Marc flipped out and started calling me all kinds of names, I have
>no idea. Maybe he had a bad day?

No, I was having a great day. dmytri, if you had said something to the effect 
that you would oppose in every way at your disposal the motion or AUP, that 
would have been fine. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, after 
all, this is a free country and we're allowed to express our opinions. 

However, you have threatened illegal action against the TFN, in a most 
hyppocritical way, as well, I might add. You are, by your threats, attempting 
to repress our (Mine, the BoD's and the memberships) right to vote, right to 
freedom of expression, by saying you will attack every element of the TFN, it's 
financial resources and volunteers, in order to shut it down. You are stating 
that you will enforce *your own vision* of freedom of expression, despite the 
fact that it tramples on the other 45,000 of us. That is hyppocrasy at it's 
utmost. 

The fact that you would resort to illegal means suggests a level of cowardice 
not seen in a lot of radical activists in Canada since the FLQ.

>The following will result in your account being terminated:
>
> 1. Being convicted of using the resources of the TFN in an illegal
>    manner by a Canadian court of law with the appropriate 
>    jurisdiction
>
> 2. Any attempt to compromise the security of, or to gain unauthorized
>    access to, any computer connected to the Internet.

Hyppocrasy again. Breaking system security is *ILLEGAL*. It falls under the 
'theft of data' section of the Criminal Code of Canada (Or some similar name 
like that) So you are saying that you will support the enforcement of these 
laws, on our own, but not those involving theft, child pornography, copyrioght 
infringement, murder, etc, etc. 

>Note that the key word is "convicted." This approach upholds, rather
>than undermines justice.

Precisely. See above.


-- 
Marc Bissonnette
InternAlysis
Corporate Internet Research and Results!
http://www.internalysis.com
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From: dragnet@internalysis.com (Marc Bissonnette)
Subject: Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?
Date: 1998/07/02
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