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Article #210Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court?
From: Dmytri Kleiner
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 00:00
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On 2 Jul 1998 15:13:12 GMT, dragnet@internalysis.com (Marc Bissonnette) wrote: >>Other ISPs are not publicly funded, are not volunteer supported, do >>not posses the status of a charity, their responsibility is to their >>stake holders, *OUR* responsibility is to the greater good of our >>community, and unless we serve as a vanguard of free speech and >>justice, we are *NOT* working in the best interest of our community. >> >So, to continue Jim's example, having this doctor shot and killed is to the >greater good of our community? Marc, please, the answer is obvious, having a doctor killed is not in the greater good of the community, which is why we have law enforcers and a justice system You and Jim are just making sensationalized examples to try and justify vigilantism. If you think that our community needs more/better/different law enforcement methods to protect "doctors from being killed on usenet" then you should be working within the law enforcement establishment, not "taking the law into your own hands" and attempting to remedy your perceived security needs by implementing some haphazard system of wild west justice via the board of a community service. > Or that person in Wendy's example stalked and >sexually harassed/abused? This is for the benefit of the communicty? Ditto. Stalking and sexual harrassement/abuse is a police matter, not one for the Free-Net Board of Directors. >Your problem, dmytri, is tunnel vision. And you Marc, have sunk to the level of Jim Blubberfield. Attempting to use pithy snubs to replace thought and logic. > Remember, your rights end *exactly* >where mine begin. Therefore, your right to freedom of expression ends when that >expression will or may cause direct bodilty harm to me (or that doctor, or that >person Wendy citred, etc). You may not like it but you have _zero_ choice. Marc, as I;ve said, *WE ALREADY HAVE A JUSTICE SYSTEM* to look out for our safety and rights, the Free-Net Board of Directors does not need to undertake this responsibility.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103731,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid103731,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 1511e9,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid1511e9,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,af8b91c1b67e9f45 X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public From: dmytrik@syntac.net (Dmytri Kleiner) Subject: Re: (AUP) Free-Net or Kangaroo Court? Date: 1998/07/02 Message-ID: <359bc0f8.836564@news.alt.net> X-Deja-AN: 368146337 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <359ee5f7.5387101@news.alt.net> <6n8u5j$gus$2@news.interlog.com> <35981165.2F55@pacbell.net> <6n977j$s14$1@news.interlog.com> <EvCHKJ.C4B.0.hotlips@GTS.Net> <6n9r7f$mdr$2@news.interlog.com> <359a189e.1497720@news.alt.net> <359a5c72.403753@news.pathcom.com> <359a6b2a.38470456@news.alt.net> <6ng828$l3s$2@news.interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com Newsgroups: torfree.general,torfree.policy,tor.general,can.infohighway