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Re: New and exciting information

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From: Kenneth Edward Smith
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 00:00
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Colin McGregor (aa005@torfree.net) wrote:
: Kenneth Edward Smith (cg591@torfree.net) wrote:
: : Actually, I would add a caveat to David Jones' post about the advantages 
: : of suing you; one form of relief which could be of significant benefit to 
: : CSAS and the Internet community as a whole might be to get an injunction 
: : against your continued tirades.  I am leaning towards thinking it would 
: : be worth the expense.  Again, I'm dead serious here.  You're becoming one 
: : of the major dangers to TFN's continued existence.

: A while back I discussed a number of options with legal council regarding
: Nabil. 

Sound practice.  I know a bit of law, but a little learning can be a 
dangerous thing...

: If we went after Nabil for libel, we would almost certainly win, but so
: what, the TFN would be out legal costs, and as we gather Nabil has almost
: no assets, well, we would collect almost nothing (ie: probably not even
: enough to cover costs). 

True.  (Although maybe enough to teach Nabil a little restraint.)

: Another option would be to get a restraining order, but I am told that
: such orders are VERY hard to obtain. In the view of the lawyer I was
: speaking to was the high amount of effort required to try and get a
: restraining order is not worth it, given the low chance of actually
: getting such an order. 

I don't know how much you told this lawyer about the particulars of the 
situation, but it is true that a restraining order is relatively 
difficult to get (i.e., costly).  But we could take up a collection 
rather than taking it directly from TFN funds.  Heck, the way Nabil's 
going you might get more donations for _that_ than we are for TFN itself...

: In other words going after Nabil at this point in time would be a waste of
: TFN volenteer time, and TFN money. Still, in an odd sense I do hope Nabil
: does go to the media with his brain dead stories (TV/radio stations, and
: newspapers have assets :-) . Alternately they could do a story on the
: shockingly bad state of mental health care in this Province, and how some
: basket cases are using computers unattended :-) ). 

Given the competence of the media in dealing with issues generally, I 
wonder if it's wise to rely on them to see where the sense is.  How many 
reporters fell for Baptista as an "expert?"  But we could hope ;-)

: Put another way, unless Nabil does something TOTALLY COMPLETELY INSANE 
: (as opposed to his current more than slightly nuts), it would appear 
: that Nabil is safe from legal action. Still, the above notes should do 
: nothing to stop all of us from telling Nabil how he keeps acting like 
: a total mindless jerk (and other less than wonderful things).

Probably better if other members do this rather than board members, or 
failing that the board members should be circumspect.  Points raised 
elsewhere about the TFN "management" attacking members have some merit.  
(BTW, Dmytri should be commended for his recent display of greater 
restraint.)

Ciao, Ken Smith <*>
cg591@torfree.net
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From: cg591@torfree.net (Kenneth Edward Smith)
Subject: Re: New and exciting information
Date: 1997/05/13
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