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Theseus, Duke of Athens (NOSPAMjcarlisl@capcollege.bc.ca) wrote:
: Jason Arron Black wrote:
: > 
: > The Vancouver community Net cut my account for posts I made to usenet
: > I posted some articles that the VCN claimed was "Hate"

: Free speech must be an absolute right, of there is no "free" speech at
: all.  Libel laws provide suficient protection to us all.  Hate laws are
: just a way of furthering the political agenda of those in power. 

	ummm.  pardon me?
	libel laws respect only those who have the wherewithal to sue 
against those with the wherewithal to be sued.
	ie.  those without funds are exempt, and thus the reason for 
criminal law in this matter.

: Unfortunately for the framers of so-called hate laws, they may not be in
: power forever. Thats why the 1st ammendment to the U.S. constitution is
: so important. It is a safeguard against tyranny.  Too bad we don't have
: the same rights here.

	ummm. excuse me.  but promoting social hatred usually results in 
the (target) social groups being censored in some manner - if not 
intentionally, unconsciously by the (target) audience.

	lets precede mention of the first amendment with recognition of 
one of a prime precepts of the constitution, ie, all men (ummm, maybe 
should be people) are born equal.

	if you abuse your right to free speech, you are denying the 
precept that all are born equal.
	it took u.s. courts what, 1.5+ centuries to recognise this point.  
and greater u.s. society appears still hesitant to embrace it (and for the 
most part, apparently due to greed or avarice).

	now, if you feel you are entitled to curtail the free speech of a 
part of society you deny all respect for, i feel sorry for you.  cultural 
and social isolation has its costs both socially and genetically (gee, 
how else would one explain the high incidence of hemophilia in the royal 
families of greater europe - not to mention other genetic disorders).

	not to mention the stagnation of society as a whole when entire 
segments are denied participation.

	denying others the right to accumulate wealth within the law by 
acting outside the law does not appear in the best interest of our 
greater society.

	i really believe you should re-examine your rationale here.
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