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Article #635Re: Mexicans to become North Carolina's largest minority
From: Stefan Wolfe
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:36
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:36
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"George Conklin" <nil@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:13hdcvbnnu4ek03@corp.supernews.com... > If there were not jobs begging for people to take them, we would not have > immigrants. > > I have a house opposite a Xmas tree farm. The WASP WASP = Racist comment. You could have left that out. > owners work like dogs > on the land, but without a crew of Mexicans working with them, we would > not > have our Xmas trees either. They pay $9 an hour for the Mexicans, but > could > pay local labor about $6, but there are no locals interested, Wait a minute. If they have to pay mexican illegals $9.00 but they 'could' pay locals $6.00, how so? Do you mean that they would have to pay $9.00 for locals minus $3.00 for taxes, social security and unemployment taxes which gives locals a net $6.00? No wonder the job wouild be more attractive to illegals, they make more money because they pay no taxes. Is that your point? > nor do locals have the skills. For decent pay, people will learn the skills involved in farm work. >Yes, Xmas trees are labor-intensive, but I tried to help > out at harvest time last year, and could not do the phyical labor. But you must have known that the harvest would be hard physical labor, otherwise you have never gotten your hands calloused before. Was this the first time you tried physical labor? You might be from up North and have a romantic view of hard labor. It is not fun, has a low market value and is mostly suitable for example, for young people trying to work through college. But now it is just another labor market for low IQ illegal aliens. I would encourage the former as it is good for the economy and the country. As to the latter I am adamantly opposed. Many people in my younger years helped finance college with the Christmas tree harvest. But they paid the taxes, didn't drain the society by overloading the schools and emergency rooms and they contributed net positive to society. > It is > tough work. The market value of which is a tax-free $9:00/hr, more for tax-paying Americans who, due to tax laws being enforced upon them alone, could never hope to receive the equivalent.
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