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From: tedorn44
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:33
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:33
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Whitey Loughmiller wrote: > MSNBC.com > States, counties cracking down on illegals > Traffic stops can lead to deportation; some Latinos cry foul > > By Peter Whoriskey > The Washington Post > Updated: 11:42 p.m. ET Sept. 26, 2006 > > CHARLOTTE - Police here operated for years under what amounts to a > "don't ask, don't tell" policy toward illegal immigrants. > As elsewhere in the United States, law enforcement officers did not > check the immigration status of people they came into contact with, and > in the vast majority of cases, a run-in with the law carried little > threat of deportation. > > But that accommodation for the burgeoning illegal population ended > abruptly in April, when the Mecklenburg County sheriff's office began to > enforce immigration law, placing more than 100 people a month into > deportation proceedings. Some of them had been charged with violent > crimes, others with traffic infractions. > > The program takes one of the most aggressive stances in the United > States toward illegal immigrants, and officials in scores of > communities, including Herndon and Loudoun County, are considering > adopting their own version. The House earlier this month was weighing a > measure "reaffirming" the authority of local law enforcement agencies to > arrest people on suspicion of violating immigration laws. > > Some Latino leaders say the program here is contributing to a > discriminatory climate in which Hispanic drivers feel as if they are > being "hunted" by police. And some law enforcement agencies elsewhere > have rejected that enforcement function, saying such programs would > rupture any trust that agencies have developed in Latino neighborhoods. > > But advocates see it as a way to catch illegal immigrants who slip > through the porous federal enforcement measures but run afoul of state > or local police. > > Mecklenburg County Sheriff Jim Pendergraph says there should be little > sympathy for illegal immigrants caught by his program: They have already > broken the law once by being here illegally, and then been arrested on > suspicion of another crime. > > "When any of them cross that border without proper documentation, > they've violated the law -- however insignificant it may seem to some > people," he said. "I've heard sad stories about folks wanting to come up > here and have a better life and earn money for their family. I've > arrested bank robbers who've had the same excuse." > > ‘Very tense’ > While the program has led to the removal of many illegal immigrants > charged with felonies, people arrested for lesser charges such as > traffic violations are also subject to deportation. > > That, according to Hispanic leaders, has created a constant worry for > people who are in the United States illegally and now fear deportation > after a simple traffic stop. > > Many illegal immigrants lack valid licenses. As a result, they now risk > not only arrest but also deportation whenever they drive. > > "It's tense, very tense," said Angeles Ortega-Moore, director of the > Latin American Coalition in Charlotte. "It used to be everybody here > loved the Latinos. They would say, 'We like you more than the blacks.' > Now we're like the Big Bad Wolf." > > "The law enforcement community is split on this issue," said Gene > Voegtlin, legislative counsel for the International Association of > Chiefs of Police. The local agencies against enforcing immigration law > "are concerned about the chilling effect it will have on immigrants' > cooperation with law enforcement," he said. > > In Mecklenburg County, about 1,200 foreign-born people have been > arrested since April, on charges ranging from traffic violations and > trespassing to sex crimes, and nearly 600 have been found to be here > illegally. > > Among those snared earlier this month was Guadalupe Lara, an 18-year-old > Mexican carpenter. > > The fifth of eight children born to farmworkers in Queretaro, he walked > across the border when he was 16 to find work. Two years later, he has > only a wispy beard and stands 5-foot-3. > > He makes $7.50 an hour and lives with four others in a small, sparsely > furnished apartment. Though they lack beds, they have a television on > which Lara watches his favorite telenovela, "Heridas de Amor." He sends > money home monthly and calls home every week. > > "It's difficult," he said in Spanish. "When I call they say 'How are > you?' I say 'I am fine.' " On Monday night, Lara was pulled over by > police after buying a pack of cigarettes. He was not drunk but had an > open bottle of beer in the car. > > He also lacked a license. He was arrested and when asked admitted he had > no papers. > Had he been detained elsewhere, that he was an illegal immigrant might > not have mattered. > But in Mecklenburg, two sergeants and 10 deputies at the jail are > trained to handle immigration infractions, running checks in databases > and holding people in custody if necessary. > > Some of those arrested face immediate deportation. Some are held on bond > pending an immigration hearing. Lara was relatively lucky. Because he > had no prior immigration or criminal charges, he was given a notice to > appear before an immigration judge in Atlanta and released. He is likely > to be ordered deported. > > Lara says police now unfairly target Latinos. More than 90 percent of > those discovered to be illegally in Mecklenburg are from Latin America. > > "The police are just looking for problems with Hispanics," Lara said. > "They know we don't have driver's licenses -- we can't get them -- and > so they pull us over." > > "A lot of people here are very afraid because they think the police will > pull them over for anything," said Liliana "La Chula" Ramos, a host on > local Spanish radio. "It's very difficult for people to get licenses > now, and people have to go to work, so they're out there driving." > > Philip Turtletaub, a Charlotte immigration lawyer, says he sometimes > receives six or seven calls a day from relatives of illegal immigrants > caught by the program. He tells them not to waste their money. > > "Most people I can't do anything for," he said. > ‘Putting the pressure on these people’ > While he ventured no opinion on the program's fairness, he said he > thinks it could make life as an illegal immigrant in the region so > uncomfortable that fewer illegal immigrants would choose to live there. > > "They're putting the pressure on these people. They're scaring them. > People say we can't deport 10 million. But you don't have to. If you > deport enough of them, others will go back voluntarily because they > don't want to live in these conditions." > > Besides Mecklenburg, six other state and local law enforcement agencies > have started similar programs in recent years. A dozen more are being > worked out with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. And in the > past three months, hundreds of state and local departments have inquired > about similar efforts, said Robert J. Hines, who heads the program for > the ICE. > > "When you are removing the criminal element from the community, it's > hard to point a finger and say it's a bad thing," Hines said. > > Loudoun County Sheriff Stephen O. Simpson said his department is > considering participating. Last night, Herndon Police Chief Toussaint E. > Summers Jr. was expected to ask Town Council permission to apply for > such a program. > Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax and Prince William officials said they > are not considering the idea, and police officials in suburban Maryland > say there is lukewarm interest in deputizing officers to enforce > immigration laws. > > "In the Montgomery County area, we've taken more the track that we > celebrate diversity," said Gaithersburg Police Chief Mary Ann Viverette, > who is also the president of the International Association of Chiefs of > Police. Immigration is "not an issue we want to enforce." > > In federal testimony from August, Pendergraph, the Mecklenburg County > sheriff, said "political correctness" is preventing some communities > from adopting the program, and that "will eventually be the downfall of > this country if someone doesn't wake up." > > Influx of Latinos > > Like much of the mid-Atlantic region, Charlotte has seen a rapid rise in > the number of Latino immigrants over the past 15 years, many of them > here illegally. Between 2000 and 2005, the estimated number of illegal > immigrants in North Carolina rose 38 percent, from 260,000 to 360,000, > according to a Department of Homeland Security report. > The influx, particularly conspicuous in a metropolis clinging to its > small-town past, has caused ripples of concern. > > "Texas, New York and California might be used to large influxes of > illegal immigrants -- but we're not," said Mecklenburg County > Commissioner Bill James, who favors stronger enforcement. "James > Carville had it right: We're just Mayberry with a major airport." > > Local support for broad enforcement coalesced in July 2005 after a truck > driven by an illegal immigrant whose blood-alcohol level was nearly > triple the legal limit, hit a car, killing a local teacher and leaving > the teacher's wife in a vegetative state. The accident resulted in > Ramiro Gallegos's fifth impaired-driving charge in five years -- and led > to the new enforcement policy. > > "No more excuses," U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick said at a news conference at the > time, calling for tougher enforcement. "You're drunk. You're driving. > You're illegal. You're deported. Period." > Staff writers Bill Turque, Karin Brulliard, Ernesto Londoño and > Candace Rondeaux contributed to this report. > > © 2006 The Washington Post Company > URL: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15022093/page/2/ > © 2006 MSNBC.com > > "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate , tireless > minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. " -- > Samuel Adams > > " George W. Bush is so pro-Mexico that if you hit him with a stick > prizes would fall out of him. " > > --Argus Hamilton > > "If you worship your enemy, you are defeated. > > If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved. > > If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed." > > -- Polydoros > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice. > It is not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved . " > > -- William Jennings Bryan > > www.HalTurnerShow.com > www.NatVan.com > www.NatAllNews.com > www.Stormfront.org > www.WhiteRevolution.com > www.V-News.org Meantime, the Democrat whores in the US Senate are delaying progress on a border fence building bill. ted
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