🚀 go-pugleaf

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 11:05:25 -0500, Michael Austin
<maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote:

>The other problem is getting past just-out-of-college-degreed HR
>personnel who do not know the value of certification vs. experience. 
>Any manager worth his salt would take an experienced person over
>certification any day.  The cert has the paper, but the experienced
>person will keep him out of trouble.  (except that usually the
>experience guy (meaning older) usually needs a higher rate) 
>
>First of all I am a DBA, And what really gets me is that, companies want
>cheap.  Yea, that's it. Let's give all of our company data to a bunch of
>kids to maintain... never mind they have never done it before, because
>they are cheap.
>
><YELL volume=REALLY LOUD>
>YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!
></YELL>
>
>Can't tell that I have been dealing with this lately can you??? :)
>
>Funny story from a company that made Fiber-optic junction boxes... 
>
>A worker that applied for a new milling-machine position had the 24yr HR
>person tell this guy that has been working precision milling machines
>(down to micron-level measurements) for over 15 years, that because he
>only has a high school diploma doesn't have the math skills for the new
>position.  The Supervisor told the snot-nosed twerp that he would take
>this guy over any college-degreed person any day of the week and he had
>better not hear this HR person ever tell his experienced people that
>because they don't have a piece of paper does not mean they cannot do
>the job.

Agreed.  A few years back, I was the MIS director for a large
pharmaceutical wholesale company and on several occasions hired
programmers through an employment agency.  When the agency asked about
my educational requirements, I said I didn't have any, and this
usually surprised them.  I explained that 5 or 10 years programming
experience was significantly more important to me than where they went
to school.  If a candidate could demonstrate good programming skills,
then I didn't care if they had never graduated from high school, much
less college.