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Article #26Re: Science Teacher Needs Help!
From: David Schaafsma
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 00:00
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Kevin Luttrell wrote: > 1) Violet light is slowed more than red light as it passes through glass > because violet "interacts" more with the electrons therein. As I > understand it, this is because most glass absorbs UV frequencies which are > closer to violet than to red. If I treat electrons as harmonic > oscillators, I can imagine this. But from the quantum mechanical > perspective, why would certain molecules have electrons that absorb UV, > but not IR? I know it has to do with their arrangement (orbitals, and > bonding, and so on), but I'd like to understand this better from a quantum > mechanical perspective. Is it the electron's tendancy to leap from energy > level x - to - energy level y that determines its resonant frequency? You really can't think of individual atomic levels or binding when you'rethinking about energy levels in a solid. And different solids have different dominant mechanisms for absorption. The UV edge in glasses and semiconductors and dielectrics is due to the forbidden energy gap, which you can illustrate to yourself by solving the Kronig-Penny potential. There are also a number of things that tend to broaden this (aside from the normal thermal broadening), but these are too numerous to get into here. Energy gaps in periodic (or quasi-periodic or even amorphous) solids are one of the fundamental victories of solid state physics - this is what dictates that many of (the electrons in) these solids cannot absorb radiation below a certain energy. Electrons do not simply have a "tendency" to change energy levels, they are constrained to change levels at a certain minimum of energy. This is not a resonance phenomenon, but a property of the solid. It is analogous to the levels of a hydrogen atom, save for the fact that the conduction and valence bands in a solid can be "quasi-continuum" states, much broader energy spectrum and much less localized than a hydrogen atom. That said, there are other mechanisms for absorption, including many which happen in the IR. Light can excite phonon modes (quantized ionic vibrations) in the solid - this is particularly significant in glasses; silica, for example, cuts off in the IR due to multiphonon absorption. > 2) And water absorbs microwave frequencies, so why in the world does it > also slow violet more than red? Shouldn't it be better at slowing the red > because red is closer to the frequencies it absorbs? In water, as in most liquids, there are a gazillion absorption mechanisms. The electronicstates tend to absorb in the UV, but in the IR you have molecular vibrational and rotational states as well, along with phonons. The absorption spectrum is nowhere near as simple as many solids. > 3) Then there's scattering. Are the frequencies that get emitted the same > ones that were absorbed? And besides, I thought that if you hit a molecule > with its own resonant frequencies that it would absorb them and heat up, > not re-emit them. So why do microwaves heat up water molecules, and not > get scattered? Scattering is different from absorption. When you "hit a molecule with its ownresonant frequencies" you are (usually) exciting electronic states, which then re-radiate the same frequency as the electron decays to the ground state. Microwaves heat water molecules because the 2.064 or 2.45 GHz bands are absorbed by water and then dissipated as heat (they usually excite rotational modes which cause the molecules to scatter off each other). For elastic scattering, f_in = f_out. For inelastic, it's not true. There are also many different types of scattering, from Rayleigh (the blue sky) to Raman (used by spectroscopists & now some interesting device applications). Raman scattering is a little bit like a combination of ordinary scattering and phonon absorption. It's important to keep the different mechanisms clear, however. I hope this helps. David
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f8805,b30ce909333b3ee X-Google-Attributes: gidf8805,public X-Google-Thread: fd8e4,b30ce909333b3ee X-Google-Attributes: gidfd8e4,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,b30ce909333b3ee X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public X-Google-Thread: 1038c2,b30ce909333b3ee X-Google-Attributes: gid1038c2,public X-Google-Thread: 114713,b30ce909333b3ee X-Google-Attributes: gid114713,public From: David Schaafsma <drdave@nospam.jnpcs.com> Subject: Re: Science Teacher Needs Help! Date: 1997/12/08 Message-ID: <66hdcg$d75$1@agate.berkeley.edu> X-Deja-AN: 296333060 References: <66fqjk$kmn$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Reply-To: drdave@nospam.jnpcs.com Newsgroups: tw.bbs.sci.physics,sci.physics.research,sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,fj.sci.physics Originator: bunn@pac2