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Your point is well taken and no, I have never hit the wall in turn four. =
 I
have hit several tree's and rocks at high speeds (www.tccra.org) and I
assume the effect is generally the same as hitting the wall in turn =
four,
but I fail to see what that has to do with anything we are discussing =
here.
:- )

As far as the "religious zealots" are concerned, I guess you could =
consider
me as such, but then that makes it easy to dismiss me without serious
debate, which in turn, makes you a poossy...  More smiles :- )

I will say that 2000 years of history and belief is both hard and =
foolish to
deny.  Further more, America, was founded on the Christian faith so =
"Under
God" seems not only important to me, but to several other generations =
before
me.  I think what they (Eisenhower alone?) added to the pledge in 1954 =
was
just correcting a long over due oversight, since the founding fathers of
this great nation did make reference to a supreme (God) being in both =
the
Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

Am I not now forced to accept some poor unfortunate ignorant fools =
belief in
no God at all since he convinced a court to declared it =
unconstitutional?

But does all this really matter?  Most definitely not.  What will matter =
is
what you believe and where your faith is at the moment of your death.  =
If
I'm wrong and they are right, no loss.  If I'm right and your wrong, =
your
screwed..............





"Marcus Taliaferro" <mlt@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net...
> It was his reference to Monte statement:
>
> "hoNot one single citizen or soldier ever uttered the pledge prior to
> that time with the phrase '...under God' included.  Are we to then
> conclude that all those soldiers who fought Hitler and Tojo were less
> patriotic?  Less American? That all those American men and women who
> died in WWII were condemned to a godless hell bereft of the company of
> religious zealots, and paranoid ridden citizens who go to bed each
> night in camoflage pajamas?
>
> racer then said:
>
> > > "TCCRA Racer Guy" <TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > > > I see your confused.
> > > >
> > > > We say "Under God" today, in 2002
> > > > maybe you'll catch up with the rest of us someday, or live to
> > > Cali.........
>
> I didn't bring Monte statement with the post. Hope that clears it
> M
>
>



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your point is well taken and no, I have =
never hit=20
the wall in turn four.&nbsp; I<BR>have hit several tree's and rocks at =
high=20
speeds (</FONT><A href=3D"http://www.tccra.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>www.tccra.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>) and =
I<BR>assume the=20
effect is generally the same as hitting the wall in turn four,<BR>but I =
fail to=20
see what that has to do with anything we are discussing here.<BR>:- =
)<BR><BR>As=20
far as the "religious zealots" are concerned, I guess you could =
consider<BR>me=20
as such, but then that makes it easy to dismiss me without =
serious<BR>debate,=20
which in turn, makes you a poossy...&nbsp; More smiles :- )<BR><BR>I =
will say=20
that 2000 years of history and belief is both hard and foolish =
to<BR>deny.&nbsp;=20
Further more, America, was founded on the Christian faith so =
"Under<BR>God"=20
seems not only important to me, but to several other generations=20
before<BR>me.&nbsp; I think what they (Eisenhower alone?) added to the =
pledge in=20
1954 was<BR>just correcting a long over due oversight, since the =
founding=20
fathers of<BR>this great nation did make reference to a supreme (God) =
being in=20
both the<BR>Declaration of Independence and the =
Constitution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>Am I not now forced to accept some =
poor=20
unfortunate ignorant fools belief in<BR>no God at all since he convinced =
a court=20
to declared it unconstitutional?<BR><BR>But does all this really =
matter?&nbsp;=20
Most definitely not.&nbsp; What will matter is<BR>what you believe and =
where=20
your faith is at the moment of your death.&nbsp; If<BR>I'm wrong and =
they are=20
right, no loss.&nbsp; If I'm right and your wrong,=20
your<BR>screwed..............<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Marcus Taliaferro" =

&lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:mlt@ev1.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>mlt@ev1.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote in =

message<BR></FONT><A href=3D"news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; It was his reference to Monte =
statement:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
"hoNot one single citizen or soldier ever uttered the pledge prior =
to<BR>&gt;=20
that time with the phrase '...under God' included.&nbsp; Are we to =
then<BR>&gt;=20
conclude that all those soldiers who fought Hitler and Tojo were =
less<BR>&gt;=20
patriotic?&nbsp; Less American? That all those American men and women=20
who<BR>&gt; died in WWII were condemned to a godless hell bereft of the =
company=20
of<BR>&gt; religious zealots, and paranoid ridden citizens who go to bed =

each<BR>&gt; night in camoflage pajamas?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; racer then=20
said:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "TCCRA Racer Guy" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20
message<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT><A=20
href=3D"news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net"><FONT =
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size=3D2>news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net</FONT></A=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I see your =
confused.<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We say "Under God" today, in =
2002<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
&gt; &gt; maybe you'll catch up with the rest of us someday, or live =
to<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; Cali.........<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I didn't bring Monte statement =
with the=20
post. Hope that clears it<BR>&gt;=20
M<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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