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Re: Not one person in WWII said"...under God"

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From: Marcus Taliaferro
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:48
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Well stated racer, I will not remove "under God" when I say the pledge =
as I suspect most God fearing Americans won't either regardless what the =
Feds say. For the atheist of this world TS boys you will eventually =
lose. I am confident the big boys in DC will overturn the verdict. We =
will have to wait awhile for that to happen though.=20

Our coin and paper money still have IGWT on them. I guess the atheist =
boys won't want to be touching that filthy, nasty, disgusting "stuff" =
any longer and need to turn it over to me. I'll meet you atheist at my =
bank for the CASH transfer. Write to me for an appointment. Be sure you =
bring ONLY CASH and COIN, no checks, debit cards, credit cards, etc.

I am a Christian as well, and as much as I'd like the rest of the world =
to be Christian, I know it won't happen. So, I will worry about my soul =
and no one else's. I am going to have a hard enough time making it =
northward without trying to take the world with me.
M
  "TCCRA Racer Guy" <TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:1JJS8.328046$352.36732@sccrnsc02...
  Your point is well taken and no, I have never hit the wall in turn =
four.  I
  have hit several tree's and rocks at high speeds (www.tccra.org) and I
  assume the effect is generally the same as hitting the wall in turn =
four,
  but I fail to see what that has to do with anything we are discussing =
here.
  :- )

  As far as the "religious zealots" are concerned, I guess you could =
consider
  me as such, but then that makes it easy to dismiss me without serious
  debate, which in turn, makes you a poossy...  More smiles :- )

  I will say that 2000 years of history and belief is both hard and =
foolish to
  deny.  Further more, America, was founded on the Christian faith so =
"Under
  God" seems not only important to me, but to several other generations =
before
  me.  I think what they (Eisenhower alone?) added to the pledge in 1954 =
was
  just correcting a long over due oversight, since the founding fathers =
of
  this great nation did make reference to a supreme (God) being in both =
the
  Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

  Am I not now forced to accept some poor unfortunate ignorant fools =
belief in
  no God at all since he convinced a court to declared it =
unconstitutional?

  But does all this really matter?  Most definitely not.  What will =
matter is
  what you believe and where your faith is at the moment of your death.  =
If
  I'm wrong and they are right, no loss.  If I'm right and your wrong, =
your
  screwed..............





  "Marcus Taliaferro" <mlt@ev1.net> wrote in message
  news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net...
  > It was his reference to Monte statement:
  >
  > "hoNot one single citizen or soldier ever uttered the pledge prior =
to
  > that time with the phrase '...under God' included.  Are we to then
  > conclude that all those soldiers who fought Hitler and Tojo were =
less
  > patriotic?  Less American? That all those American men and women who
  > died in WWII were condemned to a godless hell bereft of the company =
of
  > religious zealots, and paranoid ridden citizens who go to bed each
  > night in camoflage pajamas?
  >
  > racer then said:
  >
  > > > "TCCRA Racer Guy" <TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > > news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
  > > > > I see your confused.
  > > > >
  > > > > We say "Under God" today, in 2002
  > > > > maybe you'll catch up with the rest of us someday, or live to
  > > > Cali.........
  >
  > I didn't bring Monte statement with the post. Hope that clears it
  > M
  >
  >



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well stated racer, I will not remove =
"under God"=20
when I say the pledge as I suspect most God fearing Americans won't =
either=20
regardless&nbsp;what&nbsp;the Feds&nbsp;say. For the atheist of this =
world TS=20
boys you will eventually lose. I am confident the big boys in DC will =
overturn=20
the verdict. We will have to wait awhile for that to happen though.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our coin and paper money still have =
IGWT on them. I=20
guess the atheist boys won't want to be touching that filthy, nasty, =
disgusting=20
"stuff" any longer and need to turn it over to me. I'll&nbsp;meet you =
atheist at=20
my bank for the CASH transfer.&nbsp;Write to me for an appointment. Be =
sure you=20
bring ONLY CASH and COIN, no checks, debit cards, credit cards,=20
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a Christian as well, and as much =
as I'd like=20
the rest of the world to be Christian, I know it won't happen. So, I =
will worry=20
about my soul and no one else's. I am going to have a hard enough time =
making it=20
northward without trying to take the world with me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV>"TCCRA Racer Guy" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com">TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:1JJS8.328046$352.36732@sccrnsc02">news:1JJS8.328046$352.3673=
2@sccrnsc02</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your point is well taken and no, I =
have never hit=20
  the wall in turn four.&nbsp; I<BR>have hit several tree's and rocks at =
high=20
  speeds (</FONT><A href=3D"http://www.tccra.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>www.tccra.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>) and =
I<BR>assume the=20
  effect is generally the same as hitting the wall in turn four,<BR>but =
I fail=20
  to see what that has to do with anything we are discussing here.<BR>:- =

  )<BR><BR>As far as the "religious zealots" are concerned, I guess you =
could=20
  consider<BR>me as such, but then that makes it easy to dismiss me =
without=20
  serious<BR>debate, which in turn, makes you a poossy...&nbsp; More =
smiles :-=20
  )<BR><BR>I will say that 2000 years of history and belief is both hard =
and=20
  foolish to<BR>deny.&nbsp; Further more, America, was founded on the =
Christian=20
  faith so "Under<BR>God" seems not only important to me, but to several =
other=20
  generations before<BR>me.&nbsp; I think what they (Eisenhower alone?) =
added to=20
  the pledge in 1954 was<BR>just correcting a long over due oversight, =
since the=20
  founding fathers of<BR>this great nation did make reference to a =
supreme (God)=20
  being in both the<BR>Declaration of Independence and the=20
  Constitution.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>Am I not now forced to accept =
some poor=20
  unfortunate ignorant fools belief in<BR>no God at all since he =
convinced a=20
  court to declared it unconstitutional?<BR><BR>But does all this really =

  matter?&nbsp; Most definitely not.&nbsp; What will matter is<BR>what =
you=20
  believe and where your faith is at the moment of your death.&nbsp; =
If<BR>I'm=20
  wrong and they are right, no loss.&nbsp; If I'm right and your wrong,=20
  your<BR>screwed..............<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Marcus =
Taliaferro"=20
  &lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:mlt@ev1.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>mlt@ev1.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote =
in=20
  message<BR></FONT><A href=3D"news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; It was his reference to Monte =
statement:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  "hoNot one single citizen or soldier ever uttered the pledge prior =
to<BR>&gt;=20
  that time with the phrase '...under God' included.&nbsp; Are we to=20
  then<BR>&gt; conclude that all those soldiers who fought Hitler and =
Tojo were=20
  less<BR>&gt; patriotic?&nbsp; Less American? That all those American =
men and=20
  women who<BR>&gt; died in WWII were condemned to a godless hell bereft =
of the=20
  company of<BR>&gt; religious zealots, and paranoid ridden citizens who =
go to=20
  bed each<BR>&gt; night in camoflage pajamas?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; racer =
then=20
  said:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "TCCRA Racer Guy" &lt;</FONT><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote=20
  in message<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT><A=20
  href=3D"news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net</FONT></A=
><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I see your =
confused.<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We say "Under God" today, in =
2002<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; &gt; maybe you'll catch up with the rest of us someday, or =
live=20
  to<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Cali.........<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I didn't bring =
Monte=20
  statement with the post. Hope that clears it<BR>&gt;=20
  M<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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