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Article #1943Re: Not one person in WWII said"...under God"
From: Marcus Taliaferro
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:48
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:48
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C21DE9.A4671640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well stated racer, I will not remove "under God" when I say the pledge = as I suspect most God fearing Americans won't either regardless what the = Feds say. For the atheist of this world TS boys you will eventually = lose. I am confident the big boys in DC will overturn the verdict. We = will have to wait awhile for that to happen though.=20 Our coin and paper money still have IGWT on them. I guess the atheist = boys won't want to be touching that filthy, nasty, disgusting "stuff" = any longer and need to turn it over to me. I'll meet you atheist at my = bank for the CASH transfer. Write to me for an appointment. Be sure you = bring ONLY CASH and COIN, no checks, debit cards, credit cards, etc. I am a Christian as well, and as much as I'd like the rest of the world = to be Christian, I know it won't happen. So, I will worry about my soul = and no one else's. I am going to have a hard enough time making it = northward without trying to take the world with me. M "TCCRA Racer Guy" <TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com> wrote in message = news:1JJS8.328046$352.36732@sccrnsc02... Your point is well taken and no, I have never hit the wall in turn = four. I have hit several tree's and rocks at high speeds (www.tccra.org) and I assume the effect is generally the same as hitting the wall in turn = four, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything we are discussing = here. :- ) As far as the "religious zealots" are concerned, I guess you could = consider me as such, but then that makes it easy to dismiss me without serious debate, which in turn, makes you a poossy... More smiles :- ) I will say that 2000 years of history and belief is both hard and = foolish to deny. Further more, America, was founded on the Christian faith so = "Under God" seems not only important to me, but to several other generations = before me. I think what they (Eisenhower alone?) added to the pledge in 1954 = was just correcting a long over due oversight, since the founding fathers = of this great nation did make reference to a supreme (God) being in both = the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Am I not now forced to accept some poor unfortunate ignorant fools = belief in no God at all since he convinced a court to declared it = unconstitutional? But does all this really matter? Most definitely not. What will = matter is what you believe and where your faith is at the moment of your death. = If I'm wrong and they are right, no loss. If I'm right and your wrong, = your screwed.............. "Marcus Taliaferro" <mlt@ev1.net> wrote in message news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net... > It was his reference to Monte statement: > > "hoNot one single citizen or soldier ever uttered the pledge prior = to > that time with the phrase '...under God' included. Are we to then > conclude that all those soldiers who fought Hitler and Tojo were = less > patriotic? Less American? That all those American men and women who > died in WWII were condemned to a godless hell bereft of the company = of > religious zealots, and paranoid ridden citizens who go to bed each > night in camoflage pajamas? > > racer then said: > > > > "TCCRA Racer Guy" <TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net... > > > > I see your confused. > > > > > > > > We say "Under God" today, in 2002 > > > > maybe you'll catch up with the rest of us someday, or live to > > > Cali......... > > I didn't bring Monte statement with the post. Hope that clears it > M > > ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C21DE9.A4671640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well stated racer, I will not remove = "under God"=20 when I say the pledge as I suspect most God fearing Americans won't = either=20 regardless what the Feds say. For the atheist of this = world TS=20 boys you will eventually lose. I am confident the big boys in DC will = overturn=20 the verdict. We will have to wait awhile for that to happen though.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our coin and paper money still have = IGWT on them. I=20 guess the atheist boys won't want to be touching that filthy, nasty, = disgusting=20 "stuff" any longer and need to turn it over to me. I'll meet you = atheist at=20 my bank for the CASH transfer. Write to me for an appointment. Be = sure you=20 bring ONLY CASH and COIN, no checks, debit cards, credit cards,=20 etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a Christian as well, and as much = as I'd like=20 the rest of the world to be Christian, I know it won't happen. So, I = will worry=20 about my soul and no one else's. I am going to have a hard enough time = making it=20 northward without trying to take the world with me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>"TCCRA Racer Guy" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com">TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com</A>&g= t;=20 wrote in message <A=20 = href=3D"news:1JJS8.328046$352.36732@sccrnsc02">news:1JJS8.328046$352.3673= 2@sccrnsc02</A>...</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your point is well taken and no, I = have never hit=20 the wall in turn four. I<BR>have hit several tree's and rocks at = high=20 speeds (</FONT><A href=3D"http://www.tccra.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>www.tccra.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>) and = I<BR>assume the=20 effect is generally the same as hitting the wall in turn four,<BR>but = I fail=20 to see what that has to do with anything we are discussing here.<BR>:- = )<BR><BR>As far as the "religious zealots" are concerned, I guess you = could=20 consider<BR>me as such, but then that makes it easy to dismiss me = without=20 serious<BR>debate, which in turn, makes you a poossy... More = smiles :-=20 )<BR><BR>I will say that 2000 years of history and belief is both hard = and=20 foolish to<BR>deny. Further more, America, was founded on the = Christian=20 faith so "Under<BR>God" seems not only important to me, but to several = other=20 generations before<BR>me. I think what they (Eisenhower alone?) = added to=20 the pledge in 1954 was<BR>just correcting a long over due oversight, = since the=20 founding fathers of<BR>this great nation did make reference to a = supreme (God)=20 being in both the<BR>Declaration of Independence and the=20 Constitution.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>Am I not now forced to accept = some poor=20 unfortunate ignorant fools belief in<BR>no God at all since he = convinced a=20 court to declared it unconstitutional?<BR><BR>But does all this really = matter? Most definitely not. What will matter is<BR>what = you=20 believe and where your faith is at the moment of your death. = If<BR>I'm=20 wrong and they are right, no loss. If I'm right and your wrong,=20 your<BR>screwed..............<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Marcus = Taliaferro"=20 <</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:mlt@ev1.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>mlt@ev1.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote = in=20 message<BR></FONT><A href=3D"news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net"><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>news:3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>...<BR>> It was his reference to Monte = statement:<BR>><BR>>=20 "hoNot one single citizen or soldier ever uttered the pledge prior = to<BR>>=20 that time with the phrase '...under God' included. Are we to=20 then<BR>> conclude that all those soldiers who fought Hitler and = Tojo were=20 less<BR>> patriotic? Less American? That all those American = men and=20 women who<BR>> died in WWII were condemned to a godless hell bereft = of the=20 company of<BR>> religious zealots, and paranoid ridden citizens who = go to=20 bed each<BR>> night in camoflage pajamas?<BR>><BR>> racer = then=20 said:<BR>><BR>> > > "TCCRA Racer Guy" <</FONT><A=20 href=3D"mailto:TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>TCCRARacerGuy@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>> wrote=20 in message<BR>> > > </FONT><A=20 href=3D"news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net"><FONT = face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2>news:17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net</FONT></A= ><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>...<BR>> > > > I see your = confused.<BR>> >=20 > ><BR>> > > > We say "Under God" today, in = 2002<BR>>=20 > > > maybe you'll catch up with the rest of us someday, or = live=20 to<BR>> > > Cali.........<BR>><BR>> I didn't bring = Monte=20 statement with the post. Hope that clears it<BR>>=20 M<BR>><BR>><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C21DE9.A4671640--
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 109097,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid109097,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 10a12a,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a12a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-27 12:47:33 PST From: "Marcus Taliaferro" <mlt@ev1.net> Newsgroups: tx.general,houston.general,ny.general,ca.general References: <3d1b168e.13577253@news.ev1.net> <17FS8.204425$6m5.166829@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> <3d1b2989_2@newsa.ev1.net> <affb34$dgbq2$1@ID-125584.news.dfncis.de> <3d1b37e4_2@newsa.ev1.net> <1JJS8.328046$352.36732@sccrnsc02> Subject: Re: Not one person in WWII said"...under God" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:48:04 -0500 Lines: 245 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C21DE9.A4671640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 NNTP-Posting-Host: tayhou-207-218-236-33.ev1.net Message-ID: <3d1b6b48_2@newsa.ev1.net> X-Trace: newsa.ev1.net 1025207112 tayhou-207-218-236-33.ev1.net (27 Jun 2002 14:45:12 -0500) Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nnxp1.twtelecom.net!newsa.ev1.net