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Re: Bikes (was Re: GUN CONTROL)

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From: Belding, Troy C.
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:39
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In article <1994Nov15.235428.19443@montagar.com>, davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes...
>In article <D.Nash-1111940958320001@bubba.ots.utexas.edu>, D.Nash@utexas.edu (Donald L. Nash) writes:
>> No it isn't ridiculous.  You pay a specific tax on your car (the license
>> plate), which goes to road creation and upkeep.  That's the whole notion
>> behind license plates, to make the road users pay for the roads they use. 
>> Bike owners do not pay this tax but they get to use the roads anyway. 
>> Property taxes, sales taxes, income taxes, etc. that bike owners do pay
>> aren't dedicated specifically to road creation and upkeep.
> 
>	But compared to the amount of damage a bicyle does to a roadway,
>it probably plenty.
> 
*stuff deleted*

>> Please stick to the topic.  Bikes may be environmentally friendly and
>> healthful, but this has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. 
>> Someone asserted that bikers have the same rights and responsibilities as
>> drivers and I have challenged that assertion.
> 
>	Okay, we have the same rights as documented by the Texas Motor
>Vehicle Code.  While on the rode, we have the same responsiblities to
>obey the traffic laws (speed, stop signs, etc...) as any other vehicle
>as documented by the Texas Motor Vehicle Code.  Now, if you want to
>read the Texas Motor Vehicle Code and tell me why you believe you have
>more rights than cyclists, I'd be happy to see your reference.
> 

Who needs a reference?  I would very baldly state anywhere that bicyclists
have earned less rights.  I have yet to see a bicyclist do any of the 
following.  a) have the legal number of reflectors, b) have a headlight
at night, c) Stop at a stop sign, or obey any sort of right of way.
d) Actually walk the bike across the intersection, as required by law.

I also see a large number riding down the wrong way on the street.
Many of them don't even wear light clothing at night.  If I hadn't been
alert, I would have killed one at 1:00 AM one day, because he blythely
rode across an intersection without even LOOKING!  And I had the right
of way, having just stopped at the intersection.  I had just started to 
move when the sucker just blitzed across the intersection.

So no, bicylists do not, and should not have the rights, as they have 
not earned them.  Once cops start giving out tickets to cyclists, impounding
the bikes, and forcing them to obey the laws like cars do, then I will 
think that they may have rights.

(I will admit, I also do not see many cars admitting the 3/4 lane ownership
by a bike as well)

Troy
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I'll get a life when it is proven          Troy C. Belding
and substantiated to be better             TROY@JETSON.UH.EDU
than what I am currently                   My statements and opinions are not
experiencing.				   those of this institution.
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Subject: Re: Bikes (was Re: GUN CONTROL)
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