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Re: Children To Be Scapegoated?

#3812
From: Jimmy Shaskivich
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:00
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I missed the initial message which prompted these replies, but IMHO, the
SBC has been issuing some real "weird" statements lately.  Shunning Disney,
banning Miramax films, etc..........seems so trivial and farcical to begin
with<>

Jamesg@msn.com wrote in article <01bdb5bb$157b5d00$d25333a1@nt3128>...
> I am not a Baptist.  I am a Catholic.  This guys criticism of the Baptist
> statement is completely off target.  Not only do I think he doesn't
> understand the teaching of the Baptist church on this subject, but he
> doesn't understand the Christian concept of marriage.  Speaking of power,
> who gets their way, etc. all implies a pride and willfulness that would
be
> completely alien to a truly loving, Christian marriage.  I congratulate
my
> Baptist brethren for their courageous teaching.  It is certainly counter
> cultural in the present social climate, as are most of Christ's
teachings.
> 
> easttom@redriverok.com wrote in article
> <6oj3rk$rjh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> > Sir, all of your complaints have nothing to do with SBC doctrine or
> > statements.  There is no statement or doctrine advocating any
> mistreatment of
> > any member of any family.
> > 
> > In article <35ABE2AB.7B97@flash.net>,
> >   chmills@flash.net wrote:
> > > C.S. Mills writes:
> > > --I submit you simply have not paid attention to exactly what I
wrote.
> > > Please go back and read my post again.
> > > --Children IN ALREADY DYSFUNCTIONAL BAPTIST FAMILIES are in a
position
> > > to be scapegoated now more than ever by those particular Baptist
> > > families. Did you take my first statement to mean that ALL Southern
> > > Baptist families are dysfunctional? Would you agree that SOME
Southern
> > > Baptist families are dysfunctional? Would you agree that SOME
Southern
> > > Baptist children who reside in dysfuncitonal families might be
> > > scapegoated in those families who focus on only part of the addition
to
> > > the Baptist Faith And Message.
> > > --The complexities  of this  specific type of family needs to be
taken
> > > into account by the well-meaning Southern Baptists who devised the
> > > newest point in the BF&M.
> > > --Additionally, Southern Baptists need to recognize that many
children
> > > ARE utilized  daily by one parent  as a sounding board on gripes
> > > against the other parent during those numerous
> > > less-than-perfectly-Christian family moments, and that they
frequently
> > > are scapegoated by parents - even good Southern Baptist parents.
> > > Chronically using a child that way is hurtful to the child. And THAT
> was
> > > my chief point of concern in my post.
> > > --I am sorry that you feel my criticism of the Baptist Faith And
> Message
> > > means that I hate all Baptists and that I hate all Christians.
> > >
> > > C.S. Mills
> > > chmills@flash.net
> > > ________________
> > > easttom@redriverok.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I suggest that you have simply not paid attention to the actual SBC
> > statement.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Wives are to submit to the husband as the church submits to
> christ.  This
> > > > negates any abuse or mistreatment, as christ does not abuse or
> mistreat the
> > > > church.
> > > >
> > > > 2. This plan, in point 1, only works if men are following God's
plan
> which
> > > > tells them to "love your wives as your own flesh" which not only
> negates any
> > > > mistreatment, but encourages a loving and affectionate attitude.
> > > >
> > > > 3.  Most baptist women I know, including my wife, are more than
> willing to
> > > > speak their opinions to anyone be it their husband, pastor,
whatever.
> > > >
> > > > I submit that your posting is based on your personal hate for
baptist
> and
> > > > possibly for christianity in general rather than on any actual
facts.
> > >
> > 
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> > 
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From: "Jimmy Shaskivich" <shaskivich@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Children To Be Scapegoated?
Date: 1998/07/23
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