🚀 go-pugleaf

Mike Smith wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:39:11 GMT, az-willie <sclaus@npole.com> wrote:
>
> >Mike Smith wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 02:57:48 GMT, Frank Matthews
> >><MATTHEWS@MATH.CL.UH.EDU> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Look folks the concept of closing the border is a fantasy.  While it
> >>>would help the steel mills can you imagine stringing barbed wire in our
> >>>National Parks?  And how much are you willing to raise taxes to pay the
> >>>couple of million federal workers needed to patrol?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Ummmmm... Protecting our Nation's borders is a function of the federal
> >>government. Are you attempting to state that the feds should abandon
> >>one of their constitutionally mandated  functions? And where did you
> >>get that fantasy about stringing barbed wire?
> >>
> >>
> >>>If you want control of illegal immigration you are going to have to get
> >>>control of the jobs.  If the CEOs & CFOs of corporations were spending
> >>>time in the slammer for conspiracy to get illegals hired by their
> >>>contractors you might see some improvement.  Unless anyone hiring an
> >>>illegal is at at least as much risk of time in the slammer as a drug
> >>>dealer you will have folks coming across.  They aren't to blame the fat
> >>>cats getting them for cheap workers are the cause.
> >>>
> >>>Frank Matthews
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>You just don't know a whole lot about big business, do you.
> >>
> >>Anyone intentionally hiring an illegal is subject to a fine from the
> >>INS. Anyone hiring anyone must fill out an I-9 form, verifying that
> >>person's employability, along with photocopies of the I-9 required
> >>info.
> >>
> >>We don't need more laws and restrictions; we need to enforce the laws
> >>already on the books.
> >>
> >>Mike Smith
> >>
> >>
> >===========
> >The problem is that the required papers are so easily forged. The
> >government goes to great effort to issue money that is very difficult to
> >counterfeit, but puts out Social Security cards that can be forged by a
> >10 year old.
>
> Yea, I wonder why that is................ And they have directly
> refused to let me in on the "secret".
> >
> >Illegals only get caught because of phony papers when they use a Social
> >Security number in use by someone else and the IRS happens to notice,
> >somehow, that the person apparently has two jobs ... one in Portsmouth,
> >Maine and another in Phoenix, Arizona. Once in a rare while they decide
> >to figure out how that person can be in two places at the same time.
>
> In order to get a driver's license or receive non-emergency medical
> treatment or receive hand-outs of food or clothing from the
> government, there should be a verification that the recipient is a US
> citizen. With the current technology, there should be an easy call-in
> or log-in to verify eligibility for work. It's being done for gun
> purchases, why not citizenship?
>
> I guarantee we check each employee's background for criminal
> convictions and we drug check each employee before we hire them.
>
> Mike Smith

Neither party wants this.  Democrats want constituients who vote
pro-socialist, and the GOP wants cheap labor per industry demands not to
mention a huge number of H1B's

Americans citizens are left out.  Their opinions on this issue don't matter to
either party.  Fox is the bad cop calling for open borders.  Bush can't be so
bold.
NWO.