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Article #4016Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice
From: Eric Lee Green
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:14
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:14
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In article <atno2l$sqpa$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de>, phxbrd ruminated: n> > Pretending that our unemployed can and will fill all jobs vacated is simply > ludicrous. You might get some welfare titters off their asses if you pay > them $25/hr, but who's going to train them - assuming falsely they can all > be trained, that is? Many need weeks of training on how to even show up for > work every day - that's truth and you know it. I worked the unemployment numbers on my web site some time ago. Let me republish the article here in large part: Heck, let's look at October 2002 first. On October 2002, there was 214 million Americans who were capable of participating in the work force (i.e., were above 16). Of those, a little under 135 million Americans were actually employed. You do the math: 135 divided by 214 is 0.63, meaning that the actual unemployment rate is 37%, higher than the peak of 33% during the Great Depression. Or is it? After all, neither 75 year old grandfathers nor 16 year old girls are likely to want to actually work, and there are still women who are not actually looking for work outside of being a housewife. So let's go over to the Census bureau and get rid of some of those people... The 2000 Census had an age breakdown. There were 173 million Americans between ages 18 and 65 in 2000. College students presumably are not looking for jobs. The Census Bureau helpfully tells us how many kids are in college and their employment status. 14 million are in college, and of those, 5 million are employed. So let's subtract 9 million from the workforce. We're now down to 164 million. For the sake of argument, let's assume that 25% of all women want to be housewives. This corresponds to the percentage of women with children who are NOT working. This means that we can subtract another 21 million from the workforce. Now we're at 143 million. People in prison aren't working, as such. According to The Bureau of Justice Statistics, there was approximately 1.2 million prisoners in 2000. So now we're down to 142 million in the workforce. So now we have an actual unemployment rate: 135 million actually working, divided by 142 million in the workforce. That's roughly 95% of people who are of working age and actually in the market for a job who are actually working (note that because of the rounding that I've done all through this exercise, that number could be off by as much as 3%). In other words, there is 7 million Americans who are theoretically capable of taking jobs currently occupied by immigrants. There are anywhere from 7 million to 11 million illegal immigrants currently in America, depending upon what study you look at. Now, of that 7 million Americans, remember that some large number of them are single mothers on welfare, another large number is institutionized in nursing homes, a sizable number are disabled (approximately 90% of all disabled people are unemployed)... In other words: If you sent all the illegals home, there just aren't enough able-bodied Americans to take their place. The numbers don't lie. All figures that I mention above can be easily verified at the source, though as far as I know I am the first person to actually put all the numbers together to figure out that 2+2 != 7. > Back to the basics - Supply & Demand allows illegals to come here and > flourish. If there were no room for them they wouldn't be here. Your > federal gummint recognizes such basic reality even if you lot do not. It's > a win/win situation for both Mexico and the US, discounting the personal > rage felt by some of our scummiest citizens who simply hate Mexicans. > > If you're going to wave the flag and spout jingoistic and chauvinistic > rhetoric, be ready to address every aspect implied by your recommendations; > tell how much personal freedom you're willing to give up, tell how much more > staggering taxes you're willing to pay, tell how you'll implement the > 'sweep', tell SPECIFICALLY how you'll fill all vacated jobs, tell how many > troops it'll take to seal all borders tight, tell how robbing our citizenry > to meet the manpower needs will strengthen our nation, tell how many of us > will NOT be engaged full-time in your ethnic cleansing, tell what the > deported Mexicans will eat when they're returned to unemployment and poverty > in Mexico, etc., etc., etc. Please, you're talking about facts, and facts are not relevant to the KKK mentality that we're talking about. They're utterly convinced that "them niggers is taking our jobs" whoops "them Mexicans is taking our jobs". Nevermind that I've had the misfortune of being the boss to these kinds of KKK masterminds and ended up having to kick them out the door because they refused to follow directions and did whatever the hell they felt like doing whenever they felt like doing rather than the job that they were assigned to do... they blame the Mexicans, not their own personal failings, as the reason they are unemployed or underemployed. If they'd quit being so obnoxious and were willing to work well with others, maybe I wouldn't have had to kick their ass out the door? But what the hey, it's always easier to blame other people than to accept personal responsibility (and the more defenseless the other people, the better -- thus why, in generations past, they blamed "niggers", and today they blame "wetbacks"). -- Eric Lee Green EMAIL: mailto:eric@badtux.org http://badtux.org -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1042ac,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid1042ac,public X-Google-Thread: 109097,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid109097,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 1084c1,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid1084c1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-17 11:15:16 PST Newsgroups: tx.general,az.general,houston.general,soc.culture.usa From: Eric Lee Green <eric@badtux.org> Subject: Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice References: <luQK9.208306$Kj1.6549098@twister.austin.rr.com> <atidnf$148bbg$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <texdriver-FE76C9.14235015122002@netnews.attbi.com> <atj3v3$13hfo0$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <pukqvu0f3to81sm2867dbtcjkq301rk3i3@4ax.com> <atl1ao$5ckm$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <MPG.1867d8ed41bc4c779897d0@news.verizon.net> <3dfe3c2f.70470418@news.direcway.com> <MYrL9.55138$Y86.54605@news2.central.cox.net> <atljao$d0ju$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <ckhuvucsfpb7sgvib3uggmicq8g8oomapd@4ax.com> <JuIL9.57821$Y86.21957@news2.central.cox.net> <atno2l$sqpa$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: eric@badtux.org Followup-To: az.general Message-ID: <slrnavutoh.1ksk.eric@badtux.org> User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (FreeBSD) NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.39.86.202 Date: 17 Dec 2002 13:14:24 -0600 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1040152464 65.39.86.202 (17 Dec 2002 13:14:24 -0600) Lines: 111 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to <abuse@newsfeeds.com> X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 80,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail