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Re: Bad Eagle On the New War With Mexico

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From: Kingfish.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:26
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"Lady Liberty" <LadyLiberty@UPAlliance.orgXX> wrote in message
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: "Kingfish." <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com>  said, and I quote:
: ...
: >: > I don't think someone has to be a bigot to not want unlimited numbers
: >: > of people illegally coming into this country.
: >:
: >: Why is that?  Do you think we've abused so many nationalities that
: >: we're likely to be punished by anyone not American?  There was a time
: >: when all looked up to us.
: >:
: >: Every single 9-11 attacker came here legally.  Our attacking workers
: > coming
: >: in peace smacks of the mentality of grabbing guns from all when a few
: >: misbehave.  We can't find terrorist leaders, so let's beat up some
: > innocent
: >: but ambitious Mexicans, huh?
: >:
: >
: > and onto some Libertarian ideals... like freedom of movement - is that
: > for us and not for "them?"  This sounds more like the John Birch Society
: > than even small "L" libertarianism.
:
: No one said all libertarians have to think exactly the same, and I think
: some libs are wrong in thinking we should just open our borders to the
: whole world. It doesn't work the way they claim it would.

So we should be able to drive any speed we want, come and go across our boarders as we please, but
lock out certain undesireables?

: > Why aren't the militias lining up at the Canadian boarder?
:
: Why isn't our own government defending the borders of this country? Isn't
: that its job? We have a Coast Guard to supposedly defend our water borders,
: why isn't the government defending ALL our borders?

economics.

: > There are
: > tons of illegal Canadians here in the US, but they are white enough for
: > us.  Why don't we close the Mexican boarder in a real way?  Simple: we
: > need the slave labor.
:
: No one is slave labor if there's mutual consent, get off it.

when the choices - because of your heratige - are zero or one dollars an hour there is slavery.
When you have to choose loss of liberty to feed your kids, there is slave labor.  When your homeland
is not in charge of it's own destiny because of the social and economic engineering of the World
Bank and the IMF, there is slave labor.

: > Does it worry any of you that so much of our IT work (including hi-tec,
: > cryptography, satellite imaging, etc.) is being outsourced to places
: > like India?  Most aren't, but that's because we don't have to see their
: > dark faces, IMO.  There is a much greater security threat there than
: > anyone that is coming over from Mexico with the desire for a better
: > life.
:
: You want to shut down the internet?

no, not at all.  I do think that the US should protect it's people by way of some common sense and
we need to realize that the stakes here are much bigger and the problem much more complex than some
Mexicans jumping the boarder so they can work.  There are some good solid reasons why they are
heading North and we are not innocent bystanders - the problem is not solved at the boarder but
rather at those underlying problems that cause them to want to move here in droves.

KF


:
: --
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: Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian(TM*)  *All Rights Reserved.
:
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:
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: locally from a private party if the condition and price were right.
: I don't have much money.
:
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