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Martin_Williamson@mindlink.bc.ca wrote:

>I won't get into the technical aspects of what is required.  With all
>due respect, you obviously don't have any idea the amount of
>information necessary to form an operating database for the largest
>(by area) transit system in Canada.  Also you are not aware of the
If course I don't.  I don't have the background or the training.  I'm
just throwing ideas into the pan...  things that other cities have
done.   

>computing power necessary to 'just update' the whereabouts of 900-odd
>buses.  BC Transit looked at all present AVL (automatic vehicle
>location) systems presently in use (including Ottawa's).  The
>approximate cost of a system suitable to handle our system, given
>terrain, number of vehicles, service area, etc, was approx 8 million.
Fair enough.   

>>If they need additional revenue, maybe adopting OC Transpo's $56 tickets
>>for everything from walking/driving in the bus lane to fare cheating
>>could be an option.
>BC Transit Security already issues tickets for fare fraud.  Many of
>those are tied up in our already clogged court system.
The difference is that during my 4 month stay in Ottawa, I had to show
my pass to at least 3 inspectors a week!   Meanwhile, during the 4
months I took BC Transit, I had to show my pass to only 1.. and that
was a driver.   However, on OC Transpo buses, pass holders board
through any doorway (often bypassing the driver "inspector"), while BC
Transit's drivers check each rider as they board.   So... which one is
more efficient at catching fare fraud?  Which one puts more money into
the transit system?   I don't have any data regarding this, so I won't
even try to guess. 

>Driving in the bus lane is a municipal area of policing (VPD, RCMP,
>etc).  Jurisdictional problems have arisen in these areas.
Fair enough.   OC Transpo has numerous inspectors driving up and down
the Transitway looking for offenders.  It's their property (I think),
so they have jurisdiction.  It seems that OC Transpo is given quite a
bit of leeway in enforcement considerations...  

Patrick