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Article #17Re: Critical Mass author appears in Davis, 11/4
From: Jim Holland
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:01
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:01
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Good Morning! > Paul Dorn wrote: > The attitudes expressed in petitions like this one are precisely why > events such as Critical Mass, Reclaim the Streets, and other actions > have become necessary. Streets belong to everyone--kids playing ball, > protesters, parades, festivals, fairs, pedestrians, bicyclists, > etc.--and not simply drivers. What you say is true --- to a point. Anything public belongs to everyone --- playgrounds included --- so using your reasoning it is perfectly logical and reasonable for autos to use playgrounds. While anything public belongs to everyone, everything public also has designated usage --- for safety, mobility, etc. Sidewalks for people --- streets for *Vehicles* which includes autos --- playgrounds for children and people. > Since the dawn of civilization, streets > have been the principal public space of any community. Arriving just > over 100 years ago, automobiles are a recent intruder onto our roads > and streets. And it's clear that their unfettered presence degrades > the urban environment significantly. Streets are *public* space, and > not simply utilitarian corridors for auto traffic. There are lots of > things more important than driver convenience, such as clean air and > water, preservation of open space, neighborhood quality of life, > livable communities, safety for seniors and children, etc. If you > don't like getting stuck in traffic, the solution is simple: Don't > Drive! This is a side-issue and off-topic to the expressed point --- streets are for mobility of vehicles --- autos are lawful vehicles --- therefore, let them pass. If autos are outlawed on your basis above, then you have legal grounds. Otherwise, you are wasting your time here --- put your efforts to work where they will produce the results you feel are best. > Paul Dorn > Davis, CA > http://www.runmuki.com/paul <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> JB
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