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Article #19Re: Critical Mass author appears in Davis, 11/4
From: cucycln
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:36
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:36
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First off you're right I'm am posting from Canada... Also I'm not Canadan....so do some homework before you start accuse facts. Preparation is always good... think for CM. I moved here last June and come back for the winter every year....so I ride the roads in the Sac. Valley and Sat. rides........ 1) I spent 45 years in the Sacramento area...some dealing with CM.... and also cycled in the area. Member of USA cycling.. even did quite a few Davis Doubles as well as racing in the 4th July Crit. in Davis. That's why I am commenting on a American bike club. PS> a member of Mako Cycling Team also."Still" I know members of the Davis Bike club........bought my last bike from Steve Larsen last May. I have high respect for those cyclist and that's why I say I am very disappointed in the Davis Bike Club. So I do know what I speak. CM has blocked streets (downtown Sac) rode in irresponsible manner, not obeying the traffic laws. I know I was enforcement and had to deal with the out of control riders. I say riders not cyclist. And I say again.......they have done more HARM to the promotion of cycling then any group I have dealt with. Including some out of control mountain bikers on single track trail at Salmon Falls........ "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:484e7721.0211081222.30d946e1@posting.google.com... > "cucycln" <cucycln@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:<dRhv9.162341$C8.407592@nnrp1.uunet.ca>... > > I know the Davis bike Club...ridden the Davis Double several times when I > > lived in Roseville, CA. > > I assamed to know that the Davis Bike Club would stoop so low to have a > > Critical Mass person speak at their meeting. Critical Mass has done nothing > > but give us good cyclist a bad name........I'm very very disappointed. > > 1) You are posting from Canada. One must assume that you are a > Canadian. Why are you commenting on an American bike club meeting? > > 2) Critical Mass has done exactly what they claim to have done - > raised the awareness of bicyclists in every city in which they have > gathered. In some cases any publicity is good publicity - this is one > of those cases. People may get angry when they see bicyclists acting > stupid in traffic now but they are FAR more likely to see them. And > since most drivers aren't homicidal maniacs, claims to the contrary, > they are in a better position to leave them room. > > 3) Since Critical Mass (which, BTW, I abhor) came into being, > governments everywhere have begun anew making room on city streets for > bicyclists and pedestrians after a half century of neglect and > auto-centric thinking. > > I might even one day ride a Critical Mass ride just to see if any of > the claims are true or if they are the same stupid media lies that are > actually the norm these days. > > So don't think because you or I haven't had much use for these people > that they haven't done a hell of a lot for us. Because they have.
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