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Article #1188Re: Microsoft and obsolescence (was Re: KDE v. Gnome - don't you guys ever change subject lines when a thread goes off topic?)
From: M O'Neill
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:00
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On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:53:05 GMT, "A. van Luijpen" <Alexander.vanLuijpen@nym.sc.philips.com.nospam> wrote: >Nick Andrew wrote: >> >> In <ys4stod03w.fsf_-_@tulyar.sdd.cegelecproj.co.uk> Dunstan_Vavasour <Dunstan_Vavasour@cegelecproj.co.uk> writes: >> >> >What they do is keep changing the internal formats so that old >> >versions quickly become unuseable. >> >> It occurred to me on discussing this issue that perhaps the save format >> (what is written to disk) may be closely related to the data structures >> used in the program. >> >> It may be that when the user "saves" a document that the in-memory data >> structures are dumped to disk with little or no formatting, which results >> in the oft-reported junk and deleted text in the output file. >> >> When Micro$oft releases a new version, the data structure fields or their >> relationship in memory are probably different, and so different versions >> of the program are unable to load each others' native file formats. There >> may be compatibility hooks to allow newer versions to read the files of >> older versions, but it doesn't work in the other direction. > >Although no real Macro$oft fan, I cannot believe that this is the reason for the >incompatibility issues between versions. For one, I have the idea that - most likely - >in Word97 they discovered the idea of compression. For instance, saving an equal >document with a bitmap image in both formats will render a much larger file in the >95/6.0 version than the 97 version. I have been able to still read these files under >95/6.0. The case was that I image-heavy documents which spanned multiple diskettes >(yes, I know diskettes are of the past, but still they come in handy sometimes when >exchanging stuff with people w/o Jaz :-) I had to make several files, each containing >single pages of the document in order to transport them in an easy manner. Apperently >the old version converted all images to RAW/BMP type data. Word97 however >automatically compresses the file quite a lot. > clearly formats have to change to take new features into account. file conversion utilities abound. In my view, different file formats is only an annoyance, not a real problem, although I agree that there is a certain amount of planned obsolescence here.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1103af,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid1103af,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: 10d8ad,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d8ad,public X-Google-Thread: f4bda,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bda,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public From: darrow@oneillaw.com (M O'Neill) Subject: Re: Microsoft and obsolescence (was Re: KDE v. Gnome - don't you guys ever change subject lines when a thread goes off topic?) Date: 1998/10/11 Message-ID: <362110c7.23159181@news.concentric.net> X-Deja-AN: 400024138 References: <907103252snz@vision25.demon.co.uk> <OtvFDIAmbgE2Ewio@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <ys4stod03w.fsf_-_@tulyar.sdd.cegelecproj.co.uk> <6v19t4$ksh$1@gidora.zeta.org.au> <3614A281.3011@nym.sc.philips.com.nospam> Organization: Concentric Internet Services Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss