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Article #330Re: Hardware for new Linux box
From: Oz
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:00
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:00
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In article <81654r$72u4@gamma.dmz-eu.st.com>, Dave Smith <dsmith@contrac t15.inmos.co.uk> writes >If you are doing tax rate calculations, which would >probably use the FPU, then you might get unnoticed errors in your data. The ability of the manufacturers to test all parts of their chips is very limited. Consequently they would be mad to use close-tolerance chip design in areas they cannot properly test. You *ought* therefore to be quite confident that the internal error checking within the CPU chip will catch problems or be largely immune in the event of an internal failure. Remember that even good devices operated within their spec will and do fail and .001% of 100M devices is a heck of a large number of failures. If they resulted in untrapped errors in financial software of a large-medium sized company the costs might be eye-watering. Judging from the apparent resistance of overheated (and thus failed in use) processors that have been mentioned in dtpc over the years that have (on reinstallation of a new fan) gone on for years without problem I suspect that the manufacturers have sensibly included a chip shutdown in the event of this sort of gross problem. After all it would only require a minute percentage of the total components on the chip to implement this sensible facility (ie just switch off the clock). I don't believe that for the average user, using known clockable chips, and with the usual checks is under any great risk for non-critical usage. If they do have a critical use then saving a few $10's is not an issue. >I'm not >sure I'd like to take the risk of corrupting the data going through my CPU. It's >a matter of personal choice whether you overclock or not. If you even use a computer you run the risk of corrupted data. The decision is to what level of assurance your usage is required to achieve. This might go from triple (or more) paralleled processors with voted error correction/checks for operating a remote spacecraft to grossly overclocked systems when using the latest game. In the former a failure tends to be rather terminal and the latter a slightly irritating reboot every week or so. -- Oz
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1036bc,57abaeb217d681cb X-Google-Attributes: gid1036bc,public X-Google-Thread: 10d8ad,57abaeb217d681cb X-Google-Attributes: gid10d8ad,public From: Oz <Oz@upthorpe.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Hardware for new Linux box Date: 1999/11/20 Message-ID: <vNUu+CAXTsN4EwVP@upthorpe.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 550976190 Distribution: world X-NNTP-Posting-Host: upthorpe.demon.co.uk:158.152.116.64 References: <942201399snz@siberia.demon.co.uk> <weUWrTASVaL4EwHo@zenn.demon.co.uk> <80kieh$bu7$1@hek.netix.org.uk> <2L7EeNAkFIM4EwfC@clara.net> <f6ps08.c43.ln@stravinsky> <MWhAYGAhnfM4EwpP@jsunderwood.demon.co.uk> <Ykoz0BAhklM4Ewos@upthorpe.demon.co.uk> <14cu08.g51.ln@127.0.0.1> <MZFg4HAJSEN4Eww$@jsunderwood.demon.co.uk> <g49318.at.ln@127.0.0.1> <81654r$72u4@gamma.dmz-eu.st.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 943117764 nnrp-12:5540 NO-IDENT upthorpe.demon.co.uk:158.152.116.64 Organization: Oz MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux,demon.tech.pc