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In article <rPSIbJEKmVS8EwNp@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, 
andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk says...
> I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM. One of 
> the applications I run, Turnpike, (e-mail and news client) crashes 
> regularly, and I'm told it only happens to a couple of users, with my 
> particular version of Windows. The vendors have indicated that they are 
> unsure as to the cause, and unlikely to be able to fix it.
> 
> I've been offered an unwanted, and legitimate, retail copy of Windows 
> ME.

You'll get the same problems as its basically Win98 with an updated 
GUI.

> What's the going rate for that, say at Computer fair? What about Win 
> 2000?
> 
> What advantages, and disadvantages, would upgrading to either of those 
> offer me?

Windows 2000 is alot more stable and if an app crashes it very rarely 
brings down the system.



-- 
_________________________
Conor Turton
conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
_________________________

In message <MPG.16b3ea2d1c16aab49897bb@corp.supernews.com>, Conor Turton 
<conor_turton@hotmail.com> writes
>> I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM.

>Windows 2000 is alot more stable and if an app crashes it very rarely 
>brings down the system.

Tanks. How much is the gong rate and where's a good pace to look for a 
cheap, but legitimate copy?
-- 
Andy Mabbett

The next virus you download could be the one which wipes your hard-drive.
Get a virus checker *today* - if you already have one, get the latest update!

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:33:30 +0000, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:

>I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM. One of 
>the applications I run, Turnpike, (e-mail and news client) crashes 
>regularly, and I'm told it only happens to a couple of users, with my 
>particular version of Windows. The vendors have indicated that they are 
>unsure as to the cause, and unlikely to be able to fix it.
>
>I've been offered an unwanted, and legitimate, retail copy of Windows 
>ME.

Don't bother...it's bloody awful.

Either use Outlook Express (or whatever it's called this year) or
use separates such as Eudora for EMail and Free Agent as a newsreader.

>I don't fancy XP much.

If you must change the OS, then XP is probably the better bet, but
dunno if Turnpike would work with it. Best find out first before
investing in XP!

J+

In message <rPSIbJEKmVS8EwNp@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, Andy Mabbett 
<andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> writes
>I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM. One of 
>the applications I run, Turnpike, (e-mail and news client) crashes 
>regularly, and I'm told it only happens to a couple of users, with my 
>particular version of Windows. The vendors have indicated that they are 
>unsure as to the cause, and unlikely to be able to fix it.
>
>I've been offered an unwanted, and legitimate, retail copy of Windows 
>ME.
>
>What's the going rate for that, say at Computer fair? What about Win 
>2000?
>
>What advantages, and disadvantages, would upgrading to either of those 
>offer me?
>
>I don't fancy XP much.
>
>
>Given that my machine is a Dell Dimensions, what are my options for 
>upgrading the processor?

I suggest you keep looking elsewhere for the cause. For the last three 
years I've been running all varieties of Turnpike on a Dell Dimension 
Pentium II 450 with 128MB and now 256MB of RAM without suffering 
crashes.

I'm about to replace this with a Dell 4400 P4 1.8Gig and haven't decided 
yet whether to instal the copy of  W2kPro I have had hanging around for 
a year. I hadn't bothered with the Dimension because 98SE has done so 
well.
-- 
David Lawson - London
www.davidlawson.co.uk

In article <rPSIbJEKmVS8EwNp@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, Andy Mabbett
<andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> writes
>I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM. One of 
>the applications I run, Turnpike, (e-mail and news client) crashes 
>regularly, and I'm told it only happens to a couple of users, with my 
>particular version of Windows. The vendors have indicated that they are 
>unsure as to the cause, and unlikely to be able to fix it.
>
>I've been offered an unwanted, and legitimate, retail copy of Windows 
>ME.

Seems to have been left in a backwater by MS. Not generally considered
advisable by many as an upgrade.

>
>What's the going rate for that, say at Computer fair? What about Win 
>2000?

If you are not a gamer (though network Quake plays very well on a NT4
machine), have you considered NT as an option. Certainly more secure
than W98, available for about �12 (with proper licence). Very stable now
(finally) with sp6 plus hotfix pack. Should run nicely on your system.
Obviously if you've got USB or Firewire stuff you're going to have
problems (basically they don't work in NT)

W2K is still going through service packs! Service pack 3 is about to be
announced!

>Given that my machine is a Dell Dimensions, what are my options for 
>upgrading the processor?

Probably not worth it? Ram is enough IMO even for W2K. I suppose you've
checked that the CPU isn't overheating ie is well conncted to the heat
sink?

jayplus@grotland.fsnet.co.uk "J+" wrote:

> Either use Outlook Express (or whatever it's called this year) or
> use separates such as Eudora for EMail and Free Agent as a newsreader.

Or Pegasus/32 email, Gravity newsreader.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 07:32:00 +0000, John Chapple <jc@ch-w.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <rPSIbJEKmVS8EwNp@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, Andy Mabbett
><andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> writes
>>I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM. One of 
>>the applications I run, Turnpike, (e-mail and news client) crashes 
>>regularly, and I'm told it only happens to a couple of users, with my 
>>particular version of Windows. The vendors have indicated that they are 
>>unsure as to the cause, and unlikely to be able to fix it.
>>
>>I've been offered an unwanted, and legitimate, retail copy of Windows 
>>ME.
>
>Seems to have been left in a backwater by MS. Not generally considered
>advisable by many as an upgrade.
>
>>
>>What's the going rate for that, say at Computer fair? What about Win 
>>2000?
>
>If you are not a gamer (though network Quake plays very well on a NT4
>machine), have you considered NT as an option. Certainly more secure
>than W98, available for about �12 (with proper licence). Very stable now
>(finally) with sp6 plus hotfix pack. Should run nicely on your system.
>Obviously if you've got USB or Firewire stuff you're going to have
>problems (basically they don't work in NT)
>
>W2K is still going through service packs! Service pack 3 is about to be
>announced!
>
>>Given that my machine is a Dell Dimensions, what are my options for 
>>upgrading the processor?
>
>Probably not worth it? Ram is enough IMO even for W2K. I suppose you've
>checked that the CPU isn't overheating ie is well conncted to the heat
>sink?

Or that the fan hasn't siezed up or is stopped by stray
cabling?

J+

In message <NnlfxuB2uhS8EA6K@artful.demon.co.uk>, DL 
<news@davidlawson.co.uk> writes
>
>I suggest you keep looking elsewhere for the cause. For the last three 
>years I've been running all varieties of Turnpike on a Dell Dimension 
>Pentium II 450 with 128MB and now 256MB of RAM without suffering crashes.

While the fault may lie elsewhere, the crashes are definitely related to 
TP; and are always triggered by an event within TP (usually posting 
something).

-- 
Andy Mabbett

The next virus you download could be the one which wipes your hard-drive.
Get a virus checker *today* - if you already have one, get the latest update!

In message <V1QEjFAwJnS8EwJw@ch-w.demon.co.uk>, John Chapple 
<jc@ch-w.demon.co.uk> writes
>If you are not a gamer

I'm not. RSI never appealed ;-)

>have you considered NT as an option.

Yes, but...

> Obviously if you've got USB or Firewire stuff you're going to have 
>problems (basically they don't work in NT)

... I have several.
-- 
Andy Mabbett

The next virus you download could be the one which wipes your hard-drive.
Get a virus checker *today* - if you already have one, get the latest update!

In message <2iDfAlHJAIT8EwUA@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, Andy Mabbett 
<andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> writes
>In message <NnlfxuB2uhS8EA6K@artful.demon.co.uk>, DL 
><news@davidlawson.co.uk> writes
>>
>>I suggest you keep looking elsewhere for the cause. For the last three 
>>years I've been running all varieties of Turnpike on a Dell Dimension 
>>Pentium II 450 with 128MB and now 256MB of RAM without suffering 
>>crashes.
>
>While the fault may lie elsewhere, the crashes are definitely related 
>to TP; and are always triggered by an event within TP (usually posting 
>something).
>

  OK, I accept they are *related* to TP. But as I - and many others - 
don't get them with W98SE, I would have thought it worth looking further 
rather than changing the OS. Otherwise you may go through all the hassle 
and find the same thing happening.

   I found in the past that crashes like this were related to quirky RAM 
or graphics drivers. For some reason, TP seems to be unforgiving with 
either.
-- 
David Lawson - London
www.davidlawson.co.uk

You can set up program compatibility mode for programs that refuse to work
under XP

J+ <jayplus@grotland.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in article
<3c49fbec.28776969@news.freeserve.net>...
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:33:30 +0000, Andy Mabbett
<andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> >I am running Win 98SE on a Pentium II 450, with 384 MB of RAM. One of 
> >the applications I run, Turnpike, (e-mail and news client) crashes 
> >regularly, and I'm told it only happens to a couple of users, with my 
> >particular version of Windows. The vendors have indicated that they are 
> >unsure as to the cause, and unlikely to be able to fix it.
> >
> >I've been offered an unwanted, and legitimate, retail copy of Windows 
> >ME.
> 
> Don't bother...it's bloody awful.
> 
> Either use Outlook Express (or whatever it's called this year) or
> use separates such as Eudora for EMail and Free Agent as a newsreader.
> 
> >I don't fancy XP much.
> 
> If you must change the OS, then XP is probably the better bet, but
> dunno if Turnpike would work with it. Best find out first before
> investing in XP!
> 
> J+
> 
> 

In article <01c1a3f6$9646f700$742187d9@stuarts-pc>, Stuart Gibson 
<stuart@stuarts-place.co.uk> writes
>You can set up program compatibility mode for programs that refuse to work
>under XP


I don't use XP but that didn't seem to work for Turnpike 6. The latest 
TP beta is reported to have fixed the problems.
-- 
David Lawson