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9 total messages Started by David Lindsay Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:00
Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#553
Author: David Lindsay
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:00
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I have re-formatted my hard disk because of problems and have put on
command.com and io.sys. Using a win98 (and have also tried a win95) boot
disk I am trying to load win98 fresh from a cd.  
Every time I try to load the win98 software I get the following error
message within a few seconds of starting, 'standard mode:invalid dpmi
return from 039f:0906'.  It would appear to be when the win98 setup
program opens up a new screen display.

Some help would be appreciated so I can get the sick computer working
again.
-- 
David Lindsay.

(anti-spam use:  news{$}1235@mktres.demon.co.uk   ).
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#554
Author: Harry Broomhall
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:00
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In article <7mF9tAAY2Wl4EwVZ@mktres.demon.co.uk>,
	David Lindsay <junk@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I have re-formatted my hard disk because of problems and have put on
> command.com and io.sys. Using a win98 (and have also tried a win95) boot
> disk I am trying to load win98 fresh from a cd.  
> Every time I try to load the win98 software I get the following error
> message within a few seconds of starting, 'standard mode:invalid dpmi
> return from 039f:0906'.  It would appear to be when the win98 setup
> program opens up a new screen display.
> 
> Some help would be appreciated so I can get the sick computer working
> again.

  On the CD should be a file 'setup.txt' which has various details
of how to setup Win98.  This file mentions this error, and what to
do about it!

  Regards,
     Harry.
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#558
Author: Jay Jarve
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:00
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In article <7mF9tAAY2Wl4EwVZ@mktres.demon.co.uk>, 
junk@nospam.demon.co.uk says...
> I have re-formatted my hard disk because of problems and have put on
> command.com and io.sys. Using a win98 (and have also tried a win95) boot
> disk I am trying to load win98 fresh from a cd.  
> Every time I try to load the win98 software I get the following error
> message within a few seconds of starting, 'standard mode:invalid dpmi
> return from 039f:0906'.  It would appear to be when the win98 setup
> program opens up a new screen display.
> 
> Some help would be appreciated so I can get the sick computer working
> again.
> 
Is your Win98 CD for new installations? (Just a hunch).

Regards,
Jay.
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#552
Author: Al
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:00
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:55:17 +0000, David Lindsay <junk@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>Harry Broomhall <haeb@haeb.noc.easynet.net> wrote 
>
>>In article <7mF9tAAY2Wl4EwVZ@mktres.demon.co.uk>,
>>       David Lindsay <junk@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>> I have re-formatted my hard disk because of problems and have put on
>>> command.com and io.sys. Using a win98 (and have also tried a win95) boot
>>> disk I am trying to load win98 fresh from a cd.  
>>> Every time I try to load the win98 software I get the following error
>>> message within a few seconds of starting, 'standard mode:invalid dpmi
>>> return from 039f:0906'.  It would appear to be when the win98 setup
>>> program opens up a new screen display.
>>> 
>>> Some help would be appreciated so I can get the sick computer working
>>> again.
>>
>>  On the CD should be a file 'setup.txt' which has various details
>>of how to setup Win98.  This file mentions this error, and what to
>>do about it!
>
>I saw that, but was not using any of the mentioned mem managers. I
>played around with the suggestions any how; but it did not help!

I once had trouble with a re-install of '98. The problem was that
there wasn't enough free memory in DOS for the install program to
work.

When booting from a floppy only have the minimum of drivers etc.
loaded (the CD drivers and little else!), and make maximum use of
HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE. (Assuming this may be your problem).

-- 
_____________________________

Posted by Al.  | Sir Dinbych
in Wales.      | Cymru
_____________________________
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#560
Author: Harry Broomhall
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:00
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In article <FBmCUMAVLhl4EwBv@mktres.demon.co.uk>,
	David Lindsay <junk@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
> X-No-Archive: yes
> 
> Harry Broomhall <haeb@haeb.noc.easynet.net> wrote 
> 
[SNIP]
>>  On the CD should be a file 'setup.txt' which has various details
>>of how to setup Win98.  This file mentions this error, and what to
>>do about it!
> 
> I saw that, but was not using any of the mentioned mem managers. I
> played around with the suggestions any how; but it did not help!
> 

  Ah. You didn't mention that!  <grin>  In which case I would
suspect faulty hardware of some sort.

  Regards,
     Harry.
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#547
Author: Roger Doyle
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:00
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If mem. is an issue and you have the correct hardware, including a new
enough bios, you could boot from the cdrom? Thus saving any dodgy memory
configs. I am assuming you have error checked the HDD ? (using scandisk,
chkdsk, norton offerings and the like)?

Roger Doyle

Al <sparta@DELETE.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:3897396f.25209273@news.freeuk.net...
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:55:17 +0000, David Lindsay
<junk@nospam.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
<cut>
> HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE. (Assuming this may be your problem).
>
> --
> _____________________________
>
> Posted by Al.  | Sir Dinbych
> in Wales.      | Cymru
> _____________________________
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#549
Author: Al
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:00
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:16:13 -0000, "Roger Doyle" <roger.doyle@esgem.com> wrote:

>If mem. is an issue and you have the correct hardware, including a new
>enough bios, you could boot from the cdrom? Thus saving any dodgy memory
>configs. I am assuming you have error checked the HDD ? (using scandisk,
>chkdsk, norton offerings and the like)?
>
>Roger Doyle
>
>Al <sparta@DELETE.freeuk.com> wrote in message
>news:3897396f.25209273@news.freeuk.net...
>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:55:17 +0000, David Lindsay
><junk@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:
><cut>
>> HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE. (Assuming this may be your problem).

Not a problem for me, Roger. Was replying to the original post.

If I have to re-install '98, I back-up to Zip; format c: /u
without rebooting - keeps the CD drivers in memory; then 
run install from the CD. Avoids all this memory problem.

-- 
_____________________________

Posted by Al.  | Sir Dinbych
in Wales.      | Cymru
_____________________________
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#550
Author: Harry Broomhall
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
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In article <Qr3nOEAdcLm4EwZm@mktres.demon.co.uk>,
	David Lindsay <junk@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
> X-No-Archive: yes
> 
> Bill <mrbrock@iname.com> wrote 
> 
[SNIP

>>If you STILL have problems with the setup put EMM386.exe back into the 
>>config.sys and EXCLUDE all ranges: 
>>device=c:\windows\emm386.exe x=A000-FFFF
> 
> I tried this but got a message saying: 'you have an overlap in ranges,
> command not executed' whatever that meant

  Er - as there is only one range there I suspect that either
you didn't manage to type it correctly, or you have a severe
hardware error which is memory related.

  Regards,
     Harry.
Re: Can't load win98 on virgin disk
#551
Author: Ernest
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
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In article <Qr3nOEAdcLm4EwZm@mktres.demon.co.uk>
           news{$}1235@mktres.demon.co.uk "David Lindsay" writes:

> I have none of these in the config.sys

cut...

> Thanks for your help, as none of this worked I am getting very
> desperate.

I have just had to totally re-install a notebook. Created a dos boot
disk from an existing win98 pc. IE the dos is that from win98
and when the dos disk boots it says win98 in the text when loading
dos.

The config.sys only contains
files=20
buffers=8
device= to load cd driver
device= to load page stuff for keyb in autoexec
country=

autoexec.bat only contains
path=a:\dos    where dos utilities copied from windows\command reside
               eg fdik, format, attrib, edit, keyb, mscdex, etc
mscdex to load cd driver
mode= for page stuff
mode= for page stuff
keyb uk,....

which is almost as simple as it can be (except for page stuff
to enable proper keyboard mapping)

Booted from this, ran
format c: /u/s          to clear down hd and put win98-dos onto hd
                        (suppose /s not really required)
then inserted win98 cd and ran d:\win98\setup

No ems,highmem,etc   ie KISS principle

worked wonderfully.
Dunno if this helps...
Only you can tell if you have h/w problems

BTW win98 recognised and set up all the h/w correctly - much to my
surprise, incl pcmcia, screen controller, sound, infrared, the lot...
only got the monitor (lap top 800x600) slightly wrong
(I wasted ages getting all the drivers prior to starting) :(

Ernest
-- 
ernest     at Noel Systems, Folkestone (UK)
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