🚀 go-pugleaf

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:06:34 GMT, Randy <erands@newnorth.net> wrote:

>Fidh have brains the size of a piece of corn. Which, undoubtedly, is 
>about twice the size of Malcom's.

Can we therefore presume Mr Randy nobrainer, that you are in fact a
Fidherman? in which case perhaps you could explain what a fidherman
is?

Bwahahahahaha there we have it folks, proof that fidhing is not only
bad for the fidh!

>Sully wrote:
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>> Please stop replying to Malcolm's posts. You only encourage him. He is 
>> trolling for crying out loud. Ignore him and stick to the topic.
>> Sully
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>> Malcolm wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:53:49 +0000 (UTC), "Derek"
>>> <delboynic@btopenworld.com> wrote:
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>>>> "Malcolm" <Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5d11e488221e246b2ae26e464a8e1512@free.teranews.com...
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>>>>> CLOSE UP ON ANGLING
>>>>> A cruel sport
>>>>> http://www.animalaid.org.uk
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>>>> I look forward with relish to the shit (deservedly) that you will 
>>>> receive
>>>> regarding this posting.  You must be some kind of masochist to post  a
>>>> message on this newsgroup with such contentious content
>>>
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>>> If it wasn't so sad, you would be laughable. Like the fox hunters,
>>> would you like us all to pretend it's not happening? LOL get real pal.
>>>
>>> Get up to deviant pastimes and expect to get what's coming.
>>>
>>> You could always turn to tiddleywinks.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> There are three types of angling - coarse, sea and game. Coarse
>>>>> angling is by far the most popular and probably the most cruel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most types of freshwater fish (ie. from rivers, streams and ponds) are
>>>>> hunted by coarse anglers, the exceptions being salmon, trout and
>>>>> grayling. Their target species include pike, roach, perch, rudd, dace,
>>>>> bleak, bream, tench, barbel, carp and chub. Most are inedible.
>>>>>
>>>>> As well as a rod, line and hook, coarse anglers have to buy a licence
>>>>> to enable them to fish. Where a lake, river, canal or reservoir is
>>>>> privately owned, a day or season ticket is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maggots are the most common bait and are impaled live onto the hook.
>>>>> Earthworms, mealworms and bloodworms are used in the same way.
>>>>> Sometimes livebait is applied - small live fish, usually impaled on
>>>>> treble hooks to attract predatory fish.
>>>>>
>>>>> A close season runs from 15 March to 15 June, although regulations
>>>>> vary in different regions of the country. The close season is supposed
>>>>> to be a time to allow fish respite during their spawning season,
>>>>> though it has been scrapped on all still waters (ponds, lakes and
>>>>> reservoirs) since 1995.
>>>>>
>>>>> The most common argument used to defend angling is that fish don't
>>>>> feel pain. This is untrue. Fish are vertebrates, with a brain, a
>>>>> central nervous system and pain receptors all over their bodies,
>>>>> including the lips. As with mammals, it is a biological necessity to
>>>>> feel pain and without this capacity they would not survive. Scientific
>>>>> research from around the world substantiates this.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a 1996 report examining the welfare of farmed fish, the Ministry of
>>>>> Agriculture's official advisory body, the Farm Animal Welfare Council,
>>>>> noted that:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Almost all fish live the whole of their lives in water and show a
>>>>> maximal emergency response when removed from water, even for a very
>>>>> short period. This response includes changes in heart rate, increased
>>>>> production of adrenaline, noradrenaline and cortisol and vigorous
>>>>> muscle contractions ... All of the scientific evidence concerning such
>>>>> effects makes it clear that the term stress is certainly relevant to
>>>>> fish and that the means by which stress effects are mediated are very
>>>>> similar to those in mammals. Evidence that the term pain is applicable
>>>>> to fish comes from anatomical, physiological and behavioural studies
>>>>> whose results are very similar to those of studies on birds and
>>>>> mammals. The fact that fish are cold blooded does not prevent them
>>>>> from having a pain system and, indeed, such a system is valuable in
>>>>> preserving life and maximising the biological fitness of individuals.'
>>>>> Farm Animal Welfare Council Report on the Welfare of Farmed Fish,
>>>>> September 1996.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fish are caught with either a barbed or barbless hook. Barbed hooks
>>>>> cause more damage and are now banned at an increasing number of
>>>>> fisheries, but barbless hooks also cause lacerating injuries. Hooked
>>>>> fish will struggle out of fear and physical pain. They are then
>>>>> dragged out of the water into an alien environment in which they start
>>>>> to suffocate, just as we would if we were pulled under water. Their
>>>>> gills - similar to our lungs - collapse and may bleed. The swim
>>>>> bladder can rupture due to the sudden change in pressure on their
>>>>> bodies. Breathing is virtually impossible.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fish is then handled. Even with wet hands, as recommended by
>>>>> anglers, this handling removes the invisible outer mucus layer which
>>>>> provides waterproofing. Fish are consequently left open to infection
>>>>> if/when eventually returned to water. Time out of water is prolonged
>>>>> by those who want their photograph taken with their catch in the hope
>>>>> of getting a picture in an angling magazine.
>>>>>
>>>>> If injured and traumatised fish survive the ordeal of being caught
>>>>> they may still die later through stress, or be so weakened that they
>>>>> are easy prey for predators.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anglers present themselves as custodians of the countryside. They
>>>>> claim to be conservationists without whom there would be no fish. Yet
>>>>> those anglers who monitor waterways, clean up fisheries or take
>>>>> polluters to court are greatly outnumbered by those who treat their
>>>>> environment with contempt. Hooks and nylon line is lost or discarded,
>>>>> with deadly consequences for wildlife. Litter is left behind,
>>>>> including jagged bait cans. Maggots contaminated with salmonella and
>>>>> botulism have proved fatal to wildfowl. Trampling of vegetation often
>>>>> turns banks into mudslides, while the excessive amount of bait which
>>>>> is catapulted into the water can rot and pollute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Each year more waterside birds and mammals die because of discarded
>>>>> monofilament than the total number of swans ever killed by lead
>>>>> poisoning.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information visit the Campaign for the Abolition of Angling's
>>>>> website at www.anti-angling.com.
>>>>>
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>>>>> So, you dont like reasoned,
>>>>> well thought out, civil debate?
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>>>>> I understand.
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So, you dont like reasoned, 
well thought out, civil debate?

I understand.

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