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"Malcolm" <Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 14:07:02 -0500, Sully <msully@tcq.net> wrote:
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> >Please stop replying to Malcolm's posts. You only encourage him. He is
> >trolling for crying out loud. Ignore him and stick to the topic.
> >Sully
>
> You tell them Aunt Sully. The twerps are only supposed to read the
> announcements, not start a war...LOL
>
> >Malcolm wrote:
> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:53:49 +0000 (UTC), "Derek"
> >> <delboynic@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Malcolm" <Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:5d11e488221e246b2ae26e464a8e1512@free.teranews.com...
> >>>
> >>>>CLOSE UP ON ANGLING
> >>>>A cruel sport
> >>>>http://www.animalaid.org.uk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I look forward with relish to the shit (deservedly) that you will
receive
> >>>regarding this posting.  You must be some kind of masochist to post  a
> >>>message on this newsgroup with such contentious content
> >>
> >>
> >> If it wasn't so sad, you would be laughable. Like the fox hunters,
> >> would you like us all to pretend it's not happening? LOL get real pal.
> >>
> >> Get up to deviant pastimes and expect to get what's coming.
> >>
> >> You could always turn to tiddleywinks.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>There are three types of angling - coarse, sea and game. Coarse
> >>>>angling is by far the most popular and probably the most cruel.
> >>>>
> >>>>Most types of freshwater fish (ie. from rivers, streams and ponds) are
> >>>>hunted by coarse anglers, the exceptions being salmon, trout and
> >>>>grayling. Their target species include pike, roach, perch, rudd, dace,
> >>>>bleak, bream, tench, barbel, carp and chub. Most are inedible.
> >>>>
> >>>>As well as a rod, line and hook, coarse anglers have to buy a licence
> >>>>to enable them to fish. Where a lake, river, canal or reservoir is
> >>>>privately owned, a day or season ticket is required.
> >>>>
> >>>>Maggots are the most common bait and are impaled live onto the hook.
> >>>>Earthworms, mealworms and bloodworms are used in the same way.
> >>>>Sometimes livebait is applied - small live fish, usually impaled on
> >>>>treble hooks to attract predatory fish.
> >>>>
> >>>>A close season runs from 15 March to 15 June, although regulations
> >>>>vary in different regions of the country. The close season is supposed
> >>>>to be a time to allow fish respite during their spawning season,
> >>>>though it has been scrapped on all still waters (ponds, lakes and
> >>>>reservoirs) since 1995.
> >>>>
> >>>>The most common argument used to defend angling is that fish don't
> >>>>feel pain. This is untrue. Fish are vertebrates, with a brain, a
> >>>>central nervous system and pain receptors all over their bodies,
> >>>>including the lips. As with mammals, it is a biological necessity to
> >>>>feel pain and without this capacity they would not survive. Scientific
> >>>>research from around the world substantiates this.
> >>>>
> >>>>In a 1996 report examining the welfare of farmed fish, the Ministry of
> >>>>Agriculture's official advisory body, the Farm Animal Welfare Council,
> >>>>noted that:
> >>>>
> >>>>'Almost all fish live the whole of their lives in water and show a
> >>>>maximal emergency response when removed from water, even for a very
> >>>>short period. This response includes changes in heart rate, increased
> >>>>production of adrenaline, noradrenaline and cortisol and vigorous
> >>>>muscle contractions ... All of the scientific evidence concerning such
> >>>>effects makes it clear that the term stress is certainly relevant to
> >>>>fish and that the means by which stress effects are mediated are very
> >>>>similar to those in mammals. Evidence that the term pain is applicable
> >>>>to fish comes from anatomical, physiological and behavioural studies
> >>>>whose results are very similar to those of studies on birds and
> >>>>mammals. The fact that fish are cold blooded does not prevent them
> >>>>from having a pain system and, indeed, such a system is valuable in
> >>>>preserving life and maximising the biological fitness of individuals.'
> >>>>Farm Animal Welfare Council Report on the Welfare of Farmed Fish,
> >>>>September 1996.
> >>>>
> >>>>Fish are caught with either a barbed or barbless hook. Barbed hooks
> >>>>cause more damage and are now banned at an increasing number of
> >>>>fisheries, but barbless hooks also cause lacerating injuries. Hooked
> >>>>fish will struggle out of fear and physical pain. They are then
> >>>>dragged out of the water into an alien environment in which they start
> >>>>to suffocate, just as we would if we were pulled under water. Their
> >>>>gills - similar to our lungs - collapse and may bleed. The swim
> >>>>bladder can rupture due to the sudden change in pressure on their
> >>>>bodies. Breathing is virtually impossible.
> >>>>
> >>>>The fish is then handled. Even with wet hands, as recommended by
> >>>>anglers, this handling removes the invisible outer mucus layer which
> >>>>provides waterproofing. Fish are consequently left open to infection
> >>>>if/when eventually returned to water. Time out of water is prolonged
> >>>>by those who want their photograph taken with their catch in the hope
> >>>>of getting a picture in an angling magazine.
> >>>>
> >>>>If injured and traumatised fish survive the ordeal of being caught
> >>>>they may still die later through stress, or be so weakened that they
> >>>>are easy prey for predators.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anglers present themselves as custodians of the countryside. They
> >>>>claim to be conservationists without whom there would be no fish. Yet
> >>>>those anglers who monitor waterways, clean up fisheries or take
> >>>>polluters to court are greatly outnumbered by those who treat their
> >>>>environment with contempt. Hooks and nylon line is lost or discarded,
> >>>>with deadly consequences for wildlife. Litter is left behind,
> >>>>including jagged bait cans. Maggots contaminated with salmonella and
> >>>>botulism have proved fatal to wildfowl. Trampling of vegetation often
> >>>>turns banks into mudslides, while the excessive amount of bait which
> >>>>is catapulted into the water can rot and pollute.
> >>>>
> >>>>Each year more waterside birds and mammals die because of discarded
> >>>>monofilament than the total number of swans ever killed by lead
> >>>>poisoning.
> >>>>
> >>>>For more information visit the Campaign for the Abolition of Angling's
> >>>>website at www.anti-angling.com.
> >>>>
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Fishing is one of the more 'acceptable' pastimes. Nobody has ever heard a
fish cry out in pain - that is why it is acceptable. But the day will come
when *all* cruel so called 'sports' are illegal. On this side of the fence
we do not have to wait for legislation. We have our conscience to dictate
our actions. Something most of you stupid trolling shitbags will never
*ever* understand.
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> So, you dont like reasoned,
> well thought out, civil debate?
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> I understand.
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What's this to do with fishing?
"Handy Andy" <boot.DOT.legger@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Go to Google..............
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> type in :-   weapons of mass destruction
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> Hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button
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