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What are the implications for the average pleb who plays on the server? Or
should I learn to speak techno-babble and not ask silly questions?

Paul Marshall <paul@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:372F6801.11D2E593@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk...
>
> Heya all,
>
> Right, just to inform you that Freeserve AQ2 DM Server (27990) now is
> running the barrysworld admin package.  Seeing as this is the first time
> I've used it, anything that any other server ops can tell me about the
> ins and outs of BW-admin would be appreciated.  I've set "strict 2" for
> those who wish to know.  Strict 1 looked like it might be a bad plan.
>
> If you have any problems and think you deserve a reprieve, mail me.
> Same for comments.
>
> Paul
> [LSoG]R-Storm / RoninStorm[DNA]
> Freeserve AQ2 Server Admin
>
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"Mark Waters" <mark@lingo.global.net> wrote:

>What are the implications for the average pleb who plays on the server? Or
>should I learn to speak techno-babble and not ask silly questions?

It stops us expressing our true feelings when typing. Thats if it
hasn't gaged you for the audactiy of using two or three team talk
binds in a row already - you know, the ones with extra drop bullets
included sort.

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Trickle

Trickle sez:

>>What are the implications for the average pleb who plays on the server? Or
>>should I learn to speak techno-babble and not ask silly questions?
>
>It stops us expressing our true feelings when typing. Thats if it
>hasn't gaged you for the audactiy of using two or three team talk
>binds in a row already - you know, the ones with extra drop bullets
>included sort.

Beyond censorship, what else does it actually *do*?


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TragedyTrousers wrote:
> 
> Trickle sez:
> 
> >>What are the implications for the average pleb who plays on the server? Or
> >>should I learn to speak techno-babble and not ask silly questions?
> >
> >It stops us expressing our true feelings when typing. Thats if it
> >hasn't gaged you for the audactiy of using two or three team talk
> >binds in a row already - you know, the ones with extra drop bullets
> >included sort.
> 
> Beyond censorship, what else does it actually *do*?

I have it for two things :

	1)  It kicks bots automatically
	2)  It does cool logging

Does some other stuff too, but I'm not that worried about those bits.

	Paul
	[LSoG]R-Storm / RoninStorm[DNA]


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In article <3730C1D3.401D8EC8@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk>, 
paul@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk says...
> 
> I have it for two things :
> 
> 	1)  It kicks bots automatically
> 	2)  It does cool logging
> 
> Does some other stuff too, but I'm not that worried about those bits.

I am.  It also kicks people who connect through a firewall and show up 
with zero ping...

regards,

Barry
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Who needs Micro$lop?

Trickle wrote in message <372fd34b.22758133@news.freeserve.net>...
>"Mark Waters" <mark@lingo.global.net> wrote:
>
>>What are the implications for the average pleb who plays on the server? Or
>>should I learn to speak techno-babble and not ask silly questions?
>
>It stops us expressing our true feelings when typing. Thats if it
>hasn't gaged you for the audactiy of using two or three team talk
>binds in a row already - you know, the ones with extra drop bullets
>included sort.
>


List of ridiculous things in BW-Admin (some are fixed now):
muzzles "f*ck" (I'm not being polite, it muzzles the * version too. How crap
is that?)
no way to say <snigger> (Good reason, cos I can't stand racists, but ffs, it
should be able to distinguish)
muzzles you for best weapon binds.
Don't for a moment think it will let you spam help messagemode2 binds on the
server!

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Barry O'Neill wrote in message ...
>In article <3730C1D3.401D8EC8@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk>,
>paul@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk says...
>>
>> I have it for two things :
>>
>> 1)  It kicks bots automatically
>> 2)  It does cool logging
>>
>> Does some other stuff too, but I'm not that worried about those bits.
>
>I am.  It also kicks people who connect through a firewall and show up
>with zero ping...
>
It can do, it depends how it's been setup.

YeLLoW

On Wed, 05 May 1999 23:50:58 GMT, barry@oneillb.freeserve.co.uk (Barry
O'Neill) wrote:

>In article <3730C1D3.401D8EC8@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk>, 
>paul@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk says...
>> 
>> I have it for two things :
>> 
>> 	1)  It kicks bots automatically
>> 	2)  It does cool logging
>> 
>> Does some other stuff too, but I'm not that worried about those bits.
>
>I am.  It also kicks people who connect through a firewall and show up 
>with zero ping...

Aye, I can't connect now :-(

FYI, I'm on a small home LAN which uses a gateway/proxy proggy called
Sygate on the server to allow simultaneous Internet access for the
whole LAN.  When BW-Admin is set up as it is currently, it denies
access due to coming in on a "non-standard" port.

There was a little episode about 2 months ago on another server that
put this on and then produced a "Hall of Shame" page supposedly outing
Z-bots but several folks appeared on it (myself included) for this
proxy reason.  Buggered if I can remember where it was though and
therefore who could tell you how to sort it, sorry.

Would appreciate the relevant changes soon cos I'm missing my AQ2 :-)

[TAA]GreyJackal
UK}BigDave
GJ

"[TAA]GreyJackal" wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 05 May 1999 23:50:58 GMT, barry@oneillb.freeserve.co.uk (Barry
> O'Neill) wrote:
> 
> >In article <3730C1D3.401D8EC8@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk>,
> >paul@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk says...
> >>
> >> I have it for two things :
> >>
> >>      1)  It kicks bots automatically
> >>      2)  It does cool logging
> >>
> >> Does some other stuff too, but I'm not that worried about those bits.
> >
> >I am.  It also kicks people who connect through a firewall and show up
> >with zero ping...
> 
> Aye, I can't connect now :-(

Sorry mate.  I'll sort that out.

> FYI, I'm on a small home LAN which uses a gateway/proxy proggy called
> Sygate on the server to allow simultaneous Internet access for the
> whole LAN.  When BW-Admin is set up as it is currently, it denies
> access due to coming in on a "non-standard" port.

Hmmm... not quite NAT is it... :P  Arse.  I was allowing NAT hoping that
masquerade would work too.

> There was a little episode about 2 months ago on another server that
> put this on and then produced a "Hall of Shame" page supposedly outing
> Z-bots but several folks appeared on it (myself included) for this
> proxy reason.  Buggered if I can remember where it was though and
> therefore who could tell you how to sort it, sorry.

Arse.  Guess we'll be going to "strict 0" then.

	Paul
	[LSoG]R-Storm / RoninStorm[DNA]

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Further on the BW-Admin thing :

Okay, strict is now 0 (as in off), so non standard ports should be able
to connect once more.

Any other problems, give me a shout.

	Paul
	[LSoG]R-Storm / RoninStorm[DNA]

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In article <373363E8.24CBB95A@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk>, 
paul@ronin.pass.theplanet.co.uk says...
> 
> 
> Further on the BW-Admin thing :
> 
> Okay, strict is now 0 (as in off), so non standard ports should be able
> to connect once more.
> 
> Any other problems, give me a shout.

It's still throwing me off, bitching about an incorrect response from the 
client (me).  BW-Admin sucks like a lemon convention.  Just bin it, eh?  
FFS, even Barrysworld can't configure it correctly...

annoyed,

Barry
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