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Fri, 10 May 2002 09:22:22 Mike Mann <mike@kempston.net>:

>On Fri, 10 May 2002 00:59:58 +0100, "Wm..."
><tcnw51@tarrcity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>You also seem to be under the impression that dropping groups is a
>>>"good thing" and to be further assuming that this view is widely held.
>
>>No, I think dropping groups is a bad thing, ...
>
>I assumed that you meant what you said when you wrote:
>
>>Before anyone in d.s yells hypocrite I think the group in question ought
>>to have been pulled yonks ago

Yes, the stem group was dropped and the group should have been dropped. 
It was a content specific group.  Perhaps you've never come across a 
group that is intended to contain images illegal in the UK? (I'm not 
suggesting that the majority of the posters were UK residents just that 
the group was, primarily, about images illegal in the UK).

This is a very different issue to someone deciding ng abc contains too 
many images of young people which I'd object to the pulling of.

The ng I'm talking about was *for* images of young and very young girls. 
Nothing else was posted to that obscure corner of usenet in the times I 
checked.

>and:
>
>>Groups that should be pulled take (relatively) ages to be
>>pulled

that was something I was questioning and still question.

>and:
>
>>If you send me an e-mail I'll tell you the group I
>>reported that got pulled and I think ought to have been pulled and why.

So?  Why don't you ask me via e-mail?

>and:
>
>>In the case of the group concerned I'm happy it was pulled.

I am.

>Now that you've contracticted yourself [dropping groups is bad,
>pulling groups is good], I really don't know what you think :-(
>
>Unless the words "drop" and "pull" don't mean the same.

Unless you're playing with words (I am not) dropping and pulling amount 
to the same for me.

At the moment I sort of feel that you're standing in the way, Mike.

If you think I'm a bad person for thinking that a group dedicated to 
illegal images should be dropped and that other groups shouldn't have 
been dropped (and I believe Demon have dropped many groups they 
shouldn't have) then I am a bad person in your eyes and you should, 
please, step aside and leave me free to go on and ask "Having asked in 
public and received no answer, etc." from the relevant bodies

>>perhaps you missed the last
>>part of my posting on purpose.
>
>No.  Perhaps you could try again?

If what I've said above doesn't suffice then no.  I'll try talking to 
people more directly.  I wanted to know about other people's 
experiences.

Apparently no one has had an experience like mine.  OK, I'm off to talk 
to the IWF and Demon directly.  Not something you need to bother 
yourself about, Mike.

>>But what I am also doing is pointing out the lack of transparency.
>
>I understand that point.  It's the rest of your argument that's beyond
>me.

You're allowed to ask about that, I'm a little surprised you did in the 
first place TBH.  I thought my "record" on this fairly clear.

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