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Article #28Re: Poll: for/against Net surveillance in UK Anti-Terrorism law ?
From: Richard Clayton
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:09
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:09
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In article <MD2U7.50$ff4.47441@monolith.news.easynet.net>, pisces <pisces48@yahoo.com> writes >"Richard Clayton" <richard@highwayman.com> wrote in message >news:TI13kiPlX9H8EAzE@turnpike.com... >> In article <o4xT7.1414$8%.418515@monolith.news.easynet.net>, pisces >> <pisces48@yahoo.com> writes >> >> >Under "Anti-Terrorism" Act, ISPs can now be compelled to log the kind of >> >data that would enable NCS actually to do what they initially said they >were >> >doing. >> >> nope :( >> >> under ATCS ISPs will now negotiate a Code of Practice that relates to >> keeping data .. since I doubt that many ISPs would have any necessity to >> be logging the type of data referred to (records of downloads from news >> servers) the question of retention wouldn't arise anyway. > >That is indeed arguable - but on the face of it, government must believe it >broadens the kind of data and length of time for which it can be retained, >and allows them to insist that data which is not currently retained by a >particular ISP will be in future - if not, what is the point of this >legislation ? IMO, to ensure that the telcos do not delete the data that they've been holding for the past few years I think they included ISPs in the interests of being "fair" to the telcos by creating technology independent legislation. The Home Office gets enough parliamentary time each year to have no real practical need to "future-proof" their statutes. >> because crossposting is evil - and at this width, affects how far >> articles travel :( > >Why is cross-posting evil ? I gave several reasons in my previous article >Do you think that every cross-post is a troll ? no -- richard Richard Clayton They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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