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Re: Spectacular Bookshelf Performance

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From: Alan Edgey
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:09
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Joseph Oberlander <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<e_bWb.18840$F23.9975@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> Peter Sammon wrote:
> 
> > Ronnie McKinley <mckinley@nowherenet.org> wrote in 
> > news:758i20l2retk3vqo0sldpi6dv6972b68te@4ax.com:
> > 
> > 
> >>In uk.rec.audio  Peter Sammon <camman722@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What I find humorous in the US is the number of "faux" Irish who aren't 
> >>>Catholic; 
> >>
> >>So one has to be Catholic to be true Irish? 
> >>
> >>LOL
> > 
> > 
> > Spoken like a true faux-Irishman. 
> > 
> > *Real* Irishman are Catholic. Any other has give up what much of what it 
> > means- historically and culturally- to be Irish. For centuries 
> > Catholicism was at the heart of the Irish struggle against Britain much 
> > like Catholicism was the heart of the Polish struggle against communism 
> > during the cold war. 
> > 
> > You CAN call yourself Irish and be Baptist, Methodist etc., but let's 
> > face it, you're then only of Irish descent and not culturally Irish. I 
> > speak of course of the legions of "gee I'm Irish" in the US of course. If 
> > you're Irish in Cork and converted to Protestantism you're a friggin' 
> > traitor. ;-)
> > 
> > 
> >>>think being Scots-Irish means they are part Irish, part 
> >>>Scottish; 
> >>
> >  <snip>
> > 
> > I think you've missed something here. In Ireland Scots-Irish call 
> > themselves NOT Irish, but Ulster Scots [Brits please correct me if I'm 
> > off]. They are the protestants of Northern Ireland. Ulster Scots are 
> > descendent from the Scottish Presbytarians who migrated there in the 
> > 17/18 century. 
> 
> What would they call the original Catholic Scots-Irish(non Ulster)
> in the same area, then?  Just curious.

Ulster Scots. Among the Scots speaking immigrants from Scotland there
were Catholics.
This idea that Scots-Irish is only a presbetarian thing is flawed.
Though no doubt there are sectarian biggots who'll abuse anything to
justify their twisted ends.

Alan
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Subject: Re: Spectacular Bookshelf Performance
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